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The Fall of Joss Whedon

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They kind of played that up for laughs in The Brady Bunch movies were Marcia and Greg discover they have the hots for each other.
My neighbors across the street each have three children from previous marriages, and her oldest daughter and his middle son just got married. What the heck.
 
And here we go: Attack the victim. Why do you take Woody Allen's word over Dylan Farrow's? What makes him such a more reliable source of the truth for something like this?

You really believe the bullshit that Mia Farrow somehow brainwashed her child to believe Woody molested her when he didn't? What a load of bullshit.

As you see, some appear to operate from one of two likely platforms: 1) They have their "fan" and/or "I want to be in the business and/or be like..." noses so far up the ass of certain people in the entertainment business (pretty much living for positions or the material produced) that they will attack anyone who brings evidence that destroys the entertainer's reputation, or 2) You're dealing with those who reject morality to such a degree that anything goes and the natural human function of judgement based on morality is somehow "holding back" or (ironically enough) "abusing" someone if they cannot engage in that anything goes behavior.

Anyone operating from either platform offers a form of protection to abusers--enough that they can just slip by or never face real justice for their abuses/crimes because they have cheerleaders arguing doubt and/or a horribly misapplied / misunderstood concept of freedom for an adult.
 
Anyhoo, yes, the Nevers is very good.

I'm not going to boycott things I enjoy just because I found out the creator/CEO/whatever is a monster, or doesn't share my politics, or whatever. The thing about boycotts aimed at one person in charge is that they hurt the hundred or thousands (or hell, even just a few) people that work for him. I don't want to destroy a hundred innocent people's livings or careers just to prove a point about one.
 
There has to be more to being a parent than being in a relationship with the child's mother or father.

"Being in a relationship?" Sure. Being in a serious, long-term relationship? No. You can't separate families out that way.

Being in a serious relationship long-term relationship with a parent inherently carries with it a parental relationship to the children. I'm sorry, it just does. If you're in a serious, long-term relationship with a parent, then you are a source of authority, of protection, and of affection to that child. You can't have a serious long-term relationship with a parent and not end up with a relationship to the child as well. The latter comes with the former. You become part of the family. You may not be "mom" or "dad," but you are a type of parent whether or not you want to admit it.

And yes, that status comes with moral obligations to the children. You have power over that child whether you like it or not, and that power comes with responsibilities. You are obliged to protect the child in a crisis. You are obliged to give the child care and affection when they need it. And you are obliged not to sexualize or behave sexually to that child under any circumstances, even into their adulthood. Because you have power over them even when they become adults, and doing such is exercising that power in a harmful manner.

To be fair it seems to be working fine with Barry Allen and Iris West on the Flash. Those two youngsters sure do seem to love each other.

Barry Allen and Iris West are not real.
 
"Being in a relationship?" Sure. Being in a serious, long-term relationship? No. You can't separate families out that way.

Being in a serious relationship long-term relationship with a parent inherently carries with it a parental relationship to the children. I'm sorry, it just does. If you're in a serious, long-term relationship with a parent, then you are a source of authority, of protection, and of affection to that child. You can't have a serious long-term relationship with a parent and not end up with a relationship to the child as well. The latter comes with the former. You become part of the family. You may not be "mom" or "dad," but you are a type of parent whether or not you want to admit it.

And yes, that status comes with moral obligations to the children. You have power over that child whether you like it or not, and that power comes with responsibilities. You are obliged to protect the child in a crisis. You are obliged to give the child care and affection when they need it. And you are obliged not to sexualize or behave sexually to that child under any circumstances, even into their adulthood. Because you have power over them even when they become adults, and doing such is exercising that power in a harmful manner.
I think that depends on the person. You can't force them to care about a child. It's not automatic just because of proximity. There are people with biological connections to a child who never develop a parental link. Some people just aren't fit to be parents for various reasons.
 
Some people with enormous families are absolutely delinquent parents or make horrible choices that scar their children's lives. The Kennedys, for example. They helped make this country a better, stronger and more progressive place but damn, if Joseph Kennedy, Sr. wasn't a bag of dicks. It's a near-miracle any of his kids turned out even partially functional given the horrific behavior he displayed.

Proof wealth, connections and power can't make you a good father or mother.
 
The insistence that Allen was in some sense his wife's "father" is one of the more bizarre details of this whole mess. Aren't the facts of the matter grotesque enough without people making up shit to be upset over?
This is a weird policing of people's understanding of the matter, as the quasi-parental angle is inextricable from the situation. No, it wouldn't be at all the same thing if he were married to a completely unrelated (pardon the expression) but equally younger woman, and no, it's not reasonable to demand people take that hypothetical counterfactual scenario into account.
 
I think that depends on the person. You can't force them to care about a child. It's not automatic just because of proximity. There are people with biological connections to a child who never develop a parental link. Some people just aren't fit to be parents for various reasons.

I don't think you can limit the definition of parent to just those people who feel like a parent like that. Yes, some children have no real relationship of any sort to their biological parents at all, but it's not whether the parents feel a link or not that decides that. It's whether the child feels a link that decides whether that adult has emotional power over them or not, and that can still be the case even when the parent couldn't care less.
 
To be fair it seems to be working fine with Barry Allen and Iris West on the Flash. Those two youngsters sure do seem to love each other.
That one came to mind for me a couple times, and I know some people have complained about it in the past. I'm not really bothered by it since, a) they were already older when Barry moved in with the Wests and b) they are not actually related in any way.
I watched a Biography, so damn long ago, where one of the Brothers told a story about how he almost had sex with one of the girls, but he screwed it up, and missed the opportunity. He was supposed to be somewhere at a particular time and missed the appointment.
I'm not sure where I read, but I think I remember reading somewhere that David Casidy and Susan Dey had sex either during or after The Partridge Family.
And Michael C. Hall was married to Jennifer Carpenter, the actress who played his sister on Dexter, from 2008 - 2011.
 
And Michael C. Hall was married to Jennifer Carpenter, the actress who played his sister on Dexter, from 2008 - 2011.

As I recall, that one got especially weird because Hall and Carpenter had divorced (or separated, or filed for divorce--whatever, they were in splitsville) by the time that the Dexter producers decided that Debra was in love with Dexter.
 
As for The Flash, the Barry/Iris thing is indeed icky, such that I'm not sure I'd ever want to rewatch the show's (mostly) good first two seasons. As with Arrow, the showrunners had the opportunity to ditch the canon pairing and go for a better one, but unlike Arrow, they punted.
 
Maybe the greatest brother/sister love story of all is Lone Star. A great 90's movie everyone should watch.
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I think that depends on the person. You can't force them to care about a child.

As @Grendelsbayne noted, the feelings of the adult towards the child are actually not relevant to the question of whether or not that adult has a parental relationship towards that child. What matters is the role that adult plays in the child's life (and therefore how much emotional power that adult has over them, both as children and into adulthood).

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Also, if you're in a long-term relationship with a parent but don't care about their child, that's a form of emotional abuse and the parent should dump your ass ASAP and find a partner who can love them and their children appropriately.
 
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