The Event: "To Keep Us Safe" - Sept. 27 - Grading & Discussion
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When Jason Ritter outran helicopters I knew this show is going to have trouble.
Setting up a suspenseful escape story when we know he is going to try to talk Mike out of crashing the plane later just doesn't work.
And when I fell asleep, it took me a few minutes to realize I was watching The Chase by accident. Ouch!
Whoever keeps telling people ambiguous writing is good writing should be shot. The only characters with intelligible motives are Jason Ritter and Zeljko Ivanek. It's no accident those are the only ones who come across as people instead of props. And if Blair Underwood is worried about the threat, he needs to alert people. How long will they stay hidden when millions of people start freaking out about their suspiciously youthful neighbors? The Botox lynching alone would be hilarious.
Setting up a suspenseful escape story when we know he is going to try to talk Mike out of crashing the plane later just doesn't work.
And when I fell asleep, it took me a few minutes to realize I was watching The Chase by accident. Ouch!
Whoever keeps telling people ambiguous writing is good writing should be shot. The only characters with intelligible motives are Jason Ritter and Zeljko Ivanek. It's no accident those are the only ones who come across as people instead of props. And if Blair Underwood is worried about the threat, he needs to alert people. How long will they stay hidden when millions of people start freaking out about their suspiciously youthful neighbors? The Botox lynching alone would be hilarious.
I liked this episode. The series started to come together for me more, largely because I love Jason Ritter--what an endearing, believable actor--and because of the authority Laura Innes brings to her role.
I also thought that the jumping around was much more fun this time and made more sense.
Anyone else like it?
I also thought that the jumping around was much more fun this time and made more sense.
Anyone else like it?
No, that's just what some military jackass believes.
To the government they are "aliens" because they clearly aren't from our time on Earth, so they just say they aren't terrestrial.
It's like "Natural" and "organic" labels on foods, they don't actually have any real meaning because the government has never given a good definition to either of them.
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Could a split in the ranks of the aliens or a third faction thats working against the aliens and the government.I'm going with parallel dimension where we evolved differently so we are smarter and lvie longer. 1% is everythnig and nothing.
The flashbacks are horribly handled, but not quite as bad as the pilot, nothing could be that bad though.
You forgot that after the others saved him they killed everyone on the plane, which made no sense at all!
They didn't find that out until the end of the episode.
Martinez didn't lock them up again because of the plane and the attempt on his life, or said attempt being averted ... he locked them all up again because he asked Sophia outright what was going on, who they were, and why this was happening. She refused to tell him. So he locks them all up until she decides to tell him what he wants to know.
Not really sure how anyone could have misinterpreted that scene...
I was referring to to the identity of the folks who killed the plane's passengers and/or set the assassination attempt in motion. They could be an alien faction, a faction of the government or a third party. The aliens led by Sophia would seem to be responsible for saving the President, so I don't think they would kill the passengers. The various government types who dont want the aliens freed might though and the motivations of the free aliens seems unclear at this point.
However, we saw that Thomas was one of Sophia's people in the flashback to the day of the crash in Alaska. Later, Thomas gave Agent Lee the location of the plane in Arizona, telling him that they "used" the people who were onboard the plane. Whatever Thomas "used" those people for likely resulted in their death, either as a direct result or because they couldn't let the people live afterward. If I were to make any predictions or hypothesize about the future of the show, I think Agent Lee will be caught in the middle of a "civil war" between Sophia's 97 and Thomas's group.
I'll say Above Average because it's holding my interest. It looks like it's shaping up to be a well-crafted but very standard genre thriller. I was hoping for some evidence of insane anarchic inspiration like Lost had, but so far nothing.
For some reason, I'm thinking "event" means "event horizon" - was that a black hole the plane went through?
For some reason, I'm thinking "event" means "event horizon" - was that a black hole the plane went through?
Um, the entire press conference was going to be him telling the world and releasing them - even though he did not know their motives. To lock them back up after saving him really does not make much sense.
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I think it's pretty obvious it goes against what Martinez wants to do, or even what he thinks is right... but again ... it's his way of strong-arming an answer out of Sophia. The question is, will she tell him what he wants to know before something drastic happens, as she intimates?
Hmmm... A definite improvement - if only because the plot is actually moving now, and we have eliminated some options for what the 'others' are. And the timeline cutting (while annoying) did not grate as much this time.
So Above Average. They have me watching another episode at least.
I'm thinking that 'parallel universe' or 'time travel' are the only theories that make sense now for the origin of the 'others'. Both could be accomplished with wormholes - or whatever it was that transported the plane. But it seemed wormhole-ish.
So Above Average. They have me watching another episode at least.
I'm thinking that 'parallel universe' or 'time travel' are the only theories that make sense now for the origin of the 'others'. Both could be accomplished with wormholes - or whatever it was that transported the plane. But it seemed wormhole-ish.
I'm at a loss as to how Sean Walker can be pegged as the killer of a passenger on a cruise ship if he was apparently never on the ship.
Somebody else was planted in Cabin 5314, so what happened to Greg's body? One would think it was disposed of, and Greg's presence on the ship "erased" the way Sean's was.
Somebody else was planted in Cabin 5314, so what happened to Greg's body? One would think it was disposed of, and Greg's presence on the ship "erased" the way Sean's was.
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The people who were telling him that he was never on the ship were the same people setting him up.
Not that this excuses any of the other stupidity of the show so far, like why they'd bother going through these theatrics. Fuck, I'm still trying to figure out how/why he was on the plane in the first place, or why it was important for him to be there at all.
Speaking of inexplicable hows and whys, how about:
To name a few.
Seriously, the whole plot is driven entirely by people doing and saying things that are completely stupid. About the only one to make a decision for plausible reasons is the father-in-law -- who flew the plane under duress.
- Why they needed a scene of Sean running through a hospital, past security guards who do nothing to stop him, despite the APB that he's wanted for murder, only to have him fall on his ass five minutes later.
- Why Leila would be learning to swim all alone in a pool (seriously, I know she can stand in the water, but how stupid is it to get into the water without knowing how to swim without anyone there to help?).
- Why anyone would think it's a good idea to try and kill a specific human target with a jumbo jet (create a distraction/diversion, yeah, but that's not how the show is playing it).
- Why Leila would be absolutely okay with her boyfriend going snorkeling with another woman.
- Why Sean would just run across the desert, aimlessly, without having any clue where he was going or how big the desert was (It was blind, dumb luck that he stumbled across a road and was rescued).
- Why Sophia would not only offer no new information to the President (if they mean no harm, then offer something to continue negotiations), but then follow that up with a threat.
- How two FBI agents suddenly show up at Sean's hospital, but then have to drive miles and hours to get to wherever the heck they were going.
- Why Sean would confide in the very first person he sees in the hospital, after having his history on the cruise erased, after having been through a kind of teleportation and after having his father-in-law to be declare that there's a massive conspiracy and to trust no one.
To name a few.
Seriously, the whole plot is driven entirely by people doing and saying things that are completely stupid. About the only one to make a decision for plausible reasons is the father-in-law -- who flew the plane under duress.
Watched the pilot and about ten minutes of episode two. Meh. In my mind this series is now known as Heroes of the Lost West Wing. They're trying to cram too much stuff into this thing, IMO, and not doing it very well. I predict this will be a ratings victim well before Christmas.
I'd have to watch that sequence again to be absolutely sure, but I believe most, if not all, of the individuals you're referring to were actually EMTs, not security.
She's going to marry the guy. If she can't trust him to go snorkeling with another woman, then she better cancel the wedding.
Can't help ya with the rest, sorry.
Point taken. But then I have to ask, where was the hospital security? Why weren't they notified of a wanted murderer within the building? Why weren't they keeping an eye on him? Why was it left to a nurse to detain a wanted murderer?
If it was a close friend, I'd be right there with you. But someone they had just met? No way I'd let some guy I'd met less than a day or so earlier go off snorkeling with the woman I loved. For me, it's about distrust of the stranger not the significant other.
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Or, to spin it another way, I wouldn't have gone off snorkeling with a woman I had just met, not when the woman I loved was alone, sick on a cruise. I'd stay in with her. If she wanted alone time, I'd take a nap.
Either way, the separation of Sean and Leila just doesn't make any sense for two people who are supposedly madly in love with one another and on the verge of being engaged.
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