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How do you rate the Devil's Chord?


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If my problem was with trans people themselves I would’ve turned it off the moment he appeared, but I didn’t.

It's 6.44 am.

Looked it up.

Jinkx is not trans, they are non binary.

Although drag Queens are a "she", so they are a "she" as a Drag Queen, but a "they" as a civilian.

The Maestro is probably like a Mattel doll down there, if they built that body from scratch, if waste expulsion, and reproduction was never an issue?
 
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If my problem was with trans people themselves I would’ve turned it off the moment he appeared, but I didn’t.

This you?

I switched off after “I’m them”.

Shame as I enjoyed the last one.

If you're now about to tediously and obviously quibble over the less than a minute between Maestro appearing and that line, save us all the fucking bother.
 
I know two transpeople (more but they transitioned before I met them). One is very insulted by dead naming, the other relaxed about people recalling early days.
 
This was my favorite of the two episodes! Maestro was such an OTT and chaotic villain and I thoroughly enjoyed every second they were on screen :adore: It would be a massive shame if they don’t return in the future. The Beatles not looking historically accurate has been talked to death, but they weren’t really in it enough to make it obnoxious. Overall, a very satisfying, dare I say, experimental episode. 10/10 from me.
 
While I liked Space Babies more than I expected to, I actually liked this slightly less than I expected to, that said it is still the better episode of the two. Maestro was fantastic. I'm not sure they always stayed the right side of OTT but in the end it didn't matter.

I was worried at the end that the Doctor was going to beat Maestro, then I was worried it was just going to be John before Paul showed up but the two of them together defeating Maestro was fab. I have to say though, given they were in the episode so little could they really not have found actors who better looked like the Beatles? I was reserving judgement until the episode but they weren't even close. Maybe they didn't make much effort because they knew they weren't going to be in it?

I was a bit annoyed that the Doctor went from Terrified and convinced he couldn't beat Maestro to going toe to toe with them in the musical battle. I don't have an issue with the more fantastical theme of this era, and heck the Doctor has fought Gods before (heck I wonder if even Fenric was a child of the Toy-maker?) but in the same way you can overdo technobabble, I don't want to see every villain dispensed by cheap tricks or using just the right sequence of words, it can get old real fast.

The lack of Beatles music was very noticeable and I'm still not 100% sure about the Austin Powers dance at the end, again I hope this isn't a regular occurrence.

Some interesting Easter eggs, apologies if people already know this.

Murray Gold is playing the piano onscreen during the final song.

That little old lady was only June Freaking Hudson! Costume designer on Dr Who, Blakes 7 etc.

Jeremy Limb, who played the composer killed by Maestro at the start, is the son of Roger Limb who was part of the radiophonic workshop and who scored Keeper of Traken and a bunch of Davison stories.

And finally, is this the most obscure An Unearthly Child link possible?
 
Ruby is 80's cool.

A ten year old (in 2015?) wearing a possibly authentic WWII Bomber Jacket, and Doc Martins listening to lps of the Beatles on turntables?

She's not real.

It's a trap.

While I liked Space Babies more than I expected to, I actually liked this slightly less than I expected to, that said it is still the better episode of the two. Maestro was fantastic. I'm not sure they always stayed the right side of OTT but in the end it didn't matter.

I was worried at the end that the Doctor was going to beat Maestro, then I was worried it was just going to be John before Paul showed up but the two of them together defeating Maestro was fab. I have to say though, given they were in the episode so little could they really not have found actors who better looked like the Beatles? I was reserving judgement until the episode but they weren't even close. Maybe they didn't make much effort because they knew they weren't going to be in it?

I was a bit annoyed that the Doctor went from Terrified and convinced he couldn't beat Maestro to going toe to toe with them in the musical battle. I don't have an issue with the more fantastical theme of this era, and heck the Doctor has fought Gods before (heck I wonder if even Fenric was a child of the Toy-maker?) but in the same way you can overdo technobabble, I don't want to see every villain dispensed by cheap tricks or using just the right sequence of words, it can get old real fast.

The lack of Beatles music was very noticeable and I'm still not 100% sure about the Austin Powers dance at the end, again I hope this isn't a regular occurrence.

Some interesting Easter eggs, apologies if people already know this.

Murray Gold is playing the piano onscreen during the final song.

That little old lady was only June Freaking Hudson! Costume designer on Dr Who, Blakes 7 etc.

Jeremy Limb, who played the composer killed by Maestro at the start, is the son of Roger Limb who was part of the radiophonic workshop and who scored Keeper of Traken and a bunch of Davison stories.

And finally, is this the most obscure An Unearthly Child link possible?

If the first Doctor and Susan were in Shoreditch... Had music been taken from their souls already? Had Music been taken from their souls on Gallifrey?
 
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You know, now I know the episode needed: a cameo from John Smith and the Common Men!
Pronouns. So troublesome for some.
I freely admit to having trouble using them, myself, but I also admit I'm an old man and too much for me, and that I'm not right and standard either. Besides, turning an episode off for that seems ridiculous and nonsensical, personally.
Guessing some people didn't stick around for the Eurovision Song Contest then...
I know I didn't this year.
 
I think there's a difference between getting pronouns clear in your head, and maybe struggling when addressing people, and actively being annoyed enough to turn a show off because someone wants to be called they.

As someone in their 50s language has evolved substantially in my lifetime in terms of how people from some communities are referred to, whether that be related to race, gender, disability etc. Sometimes it is hard to keep up ("Wait am I still allowed to say that?") but as I said there's a world of difference between "I can't keep up with this newfangled world" and actively hating on the newfangled world.
 
I think there's a difference between getting pronouns clear in your head, and maybe struggling when addressing people, and actively being annoyed enough to turn a show off because someone wants to be called they.

As someone in their 50s language has evolved substantially in my lifetime in terms of how people from some communities are referred to, whether that be related to race, gender, disability etc. Sometimes it is hard to keep up ("Wait am I still allowed to say that?") but as I said there's a world of difference between "I can't keep up with this newfangled world" and actively hating on the newfangled world.

What's a "fangle"?
 
You know, now I know the episode needed: a cameo from John Smith and the Common Men!
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Abso-frigging-lutely, dammit.
But then the 5th Doctor might have turned up and blown the whole 'only one left in the universe' shtick out of the water because there are all their previous regenerations zooming around out there too, desperately trying to avoid crossing the ever more convoluted timelines.
 
Abso-frigging-lutely, dammit.
But then the 5th Doctor might have turned up and blown the whole 'only one left in the universe' shtick out of the water because there are all their previous regenerations zooming around out there too, desperately trying to avoid crossing the ever more convoluted timelines.

The transduction barriers around Gallifrey create temporal synch issues.

You can only approach their planet in the "present" with respect to your own present.

If the transduction barriers are not anti-time-travel shields, then what's the fricking point?
 
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