The dedicated Disco crying thread

[NCC-73515]

We need a separate, dedicated thread so people can contribute their thoughts on crying and emotionality here and keep it out of other threads that are not specifically about this heavily discussed issue.

Everyone who doesn't care can simply unwatch this thread, everyone else can debate here all day long, and other threads can stay on their topics - simply refer all future crying discussions to this thread instead.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

If it's the Michael Burnham show, then it is her party, and she can cry if she wants to.

 

[fireproof78]

If it's the Michael Burnham show, then it is her party, and she can cry if she wants to.

Yup.

 

[Paul755]

I don’t think your gonna be able to keep this topic to one thread. Especially if she cries in this weeks episode.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm gonna post crying GIFs

 

[TRON JA307020]

We need a separate, dedicated thread so people can contribute their thoughts on crying and emotionality here and keep it out of other threads that are not specifically about this heavily discussed issue.

Everyone who doesn't care can simply unwatch this thread, everyone else can debate here all day long, and other threads can stay on their topics - simply refer all future crying discussions to this thread instead.

It’s more the entire crew cries and gets emotional at some point. It’s like they rotate the crying. Usually when Burnham is using here I know more than everyone else Batman voice someone else will be crying in a side story, LOL

 

[fireproof78]

Good. Give me a crew with emotion. Maybe people will stop telling traumitized individuals to get over it.

 

[Lord Garth]

All the "crying" would suddenly be magically okay if Rick Berman's name was in the credits. Under Berman, it would be called "damned good writing!" But, because it's Michelle Paradise (and Alex Kurtzman), it "sucks".

If Picard, Sisko, and Archer had emotional outbursts, it would be called drama. But Janeway, like Burnham, lacks the Magic Y Chromosome. So Janeway is "irrational" and "erratic" and Burnham, well, we don't need to get into that...

So a lot of this comes down to sexism. No matter how else they might try to dress it up.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It’s more the entire crew cries and gets emotional at some point. It’s like they rotate the crying. Usually when Burnham is using here I know more than everyone else Batman voice someone else will be crying in a side story, LOL

Stop crying.

 

[NCC-73515]

If Picard, Sisko, and Archer had emotional outbursts, it would be called drama. But Janeway, like Burnham, lacks the Magic Y Chromosome. So Janeway is "irrational" and "erratic" and Burnham, well, we don't need to get into that...

So a lot of this comes down to sexism. No matter how else they might try to dress it up.

If men were crying as often, people would notice it as well and wonder why. Tilly cries too sometimes, but people complain about Burnham. Both are women, but one cries a lot more than the other. If Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Archer, Pike had cried as much, they would get the same comments.
Perhaps it actually is about frequency and not about sex.

If it's the Michael Burnham show, then it is her party, and she can cry if she wants to.

And y'all would cry too if it happened to you!

 

[Lord Garth]

If men were crying as often, people would notice it as well and wonder why. Tilly cries too sometimes, but people complain about Burnham. Both are women, but one cries a lot more than the other. If Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Archer, Pike had cried as much, they would get the same comments.
Perhaps it actually is about frequency and not about sex.

Nope. I'm not wrong. Just like everything with Burnham, it's all been exaggerated.

I don't say this lightly. I waited three years before I said this outright. Because up until today, I wasn't 100% certain. But now, I am. Any doubt that I used to have, before today, has been removed.

This isn't directed specifically at you. But what I've seen in general.

 

[donners22]

Eh, I love Disco but the amount of crying is a bit much.

I don't think it's necessarily a Burnham thing - it just so happens that she's central to pretty much everything and there's a lot of heavy drama.

SM-G gave us a taste of how remarkably entertaining Burnham can be in the first episode of season 3 while Burnham was under the truth drug - I'd love to see less heavy drama and more of that.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Spock cried at the end of "Unification II." Spock's gonna cry, post-DISCO. There ain't nothin' wrong with crying.

SM-G gave us a taste of how remarkably entertaining Burnham can be in the first episode of season 3 while Burnham was under the truth drug

Seriously.

 

[TPezz]

 

[ananta]

I’m so happy we now have a thread devoted to crying (those are tears of joy)

 

[CorporalClegg]

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[dinzy]

Do Kelpians cry?

 

[F. King Daniel]

If it's the Michael Burnham show, then it is her party, and she can cry if she wants to.

This. Discovery is the Michael Burnham Extended Family Show. Emotional stuff first, space stuff second. Plus, she was raised on Vulcan where emotions were frowned upon, getting to express them now is likely a big deal to her.

I recall Star Trek Into Darkness getting similar grief because Kirk tears up or cries when he loses command, when he gets to be Pike's first officer, when Pike dies, and finally when he dies. All in 2 hours!

I'm an emotional guy so I get it and this kinda Trek works for me. Stoic badasses are sooooooo 80's.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

All the "crying" would suddenly be magically okay if Rick Berman's name was in the credits. Under Berman, it would be called "damned good writing!" But, because it's Michelle Paradise (and Alex Kurtzman), it "sucks".

If Picard, Sisko, and Archer had emotional outbursts, it would be called drama. But Janeway, like Burnham, lacks the Magic Y Chromosome. So Janeway is "irrational" and "erratic" and Burnham, well, we don't need to get into that...

So a lot of this comes down to sexism. No matter how else they might try to dress it up.

That's nonsense. Trying to drag this down a misogyny route again. What's wrong with people just thinking Berman was a better showrunner ( Not defending him myself )
I don't know if Janeway took extra flack for her emotions a s I wasnt on forums back then but I never thought she reacted any different to the others.

The problem is old Trek was 20+ episodes a season where some would be highly emotional and DIS is 10 episodes and every episode is on the brink of breakdowns.

Sometimes I think wow that was good like the Ariam funeral episode or Pike seeing his own future and I liked the emotional scenes with Tyler before it got silly. Sometimes I think it's daft like side character Nhans little goodbye speech or the Admiral blowing up behind the indestructible door

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Nope. I'm not wrong. Just like everything with Burnham, it's all been exaggerated.

I don't say this lightly. I waited three years before I said this outright. Because up until today, I wasn't 100% certain. But now, I am. Any doubt that I used to have, before today, has been removed.

This isn't directed specifically at you. But what I've seen in general.

I'm the opposite. I was afraid to say too much against Burnham because I was terrified of being associated with racists, sexists and homophobes ( or all in one like KPnuts ) and there were many of them.
I still don't think the problem is Burnham the character but it gets thrown at me that I hate her or I hate crying in shows neither of which are true but the writing is poor and I'm not gonna shy away from that whether you call me sexist or not