The Dark Knight dvd thread
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No way, are you serious? Who was he cast as?
Probably the role that eventually went to Kevin Spacey.
I like Katie Holmes and she has shown she can act (Pieces of April). The role was the most underwritten and underwhelming of both movies though. I wish she had returned, but for the movies' sake would've taken someone else who would've been in both movies (Rachel McAdams?) instead of Holmes and Gyllenhaal.
I shudder to think how that movie would have turned out if that was the case. So glad they ended up with Spacey.
A lot of Blu-rays these days don't have main menus anymore (just the pop-up one). I personally don't have a problem with that. I especially hate complex and convoluted main menus where you have to wait a minute before you can even play the movie.
Okay finally saw it. Wow, very long movie, took me three nights to watch it. I like it okay, but not as much as Iron Man.
Of course I loved Heath Ledger as The Joker but Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent/Two-Face was also terrific. Those two just highlight my main problem with the Batman movies, which is that I don't really buy Batman as a character.
Here you have a guy who's (I assume) psychologically messed up because of his parents' murder, yet no one ever addresses whether Wayne should hang up the bat-suit and go see a shrink? The conflict is always on vigilantism - a moral, not a personal conflict.
Also, how can this guy be so insanely violent only when he's Batman yet, for instance, never look like he's about to haul off and slug Alfred? There's a big disconnect for me between Bruce and Batman - they don't seem emotionally plausible as the same character. Big contrast with Iron Man or even Edward Norton's Hulk, where I do buy that both the normal character and the superhero are the same basic person.
One minor-ish question: why did Batman say he was going to rescue Rachel and then end up at Harvey's location? Did The Joker switch the addresses around? That would be typical of him, huh?
Yes, Gyllenhaal was a big improvement.
Of course I loved Heath Ledger as The Joker but Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent/Two-Face was also terrific. Those two just highlight my main problem with the Batman movies, which is that I don't really buy Batman as a character.
Here you have a guy who's (I assume) psychologically messed up because of his parents' murder, yet no one ever addresses whether Wayne should hang up the bat-suit and go see a shrink? The conflict is always on vigilantism - a moral, not a personal conflict.
Also, how can this guy be so insanely violent only when he's Batman yet, for instance, never look like he's about to haul off and slug Alfred? There's a big disconnect for me between Bruce and Batman - they don't seem emotionally plausible as the same character. Big contrast with Iron Man or even Edward Norton's Hulk, where I do buy that both the normal character and the superhero are the same basic person.
One minor-ish question: why did Batman say he was going to rescue Rachel and then end up at Harvey's location? Did The Joker switch the addresses around? That would be typical of him, huh?
Yes, Gyllenhaal was a big improvement.
It's difficult to envision...I've never seen her in anything that demands that level of acting skill.
Yes, the Joker lied about the locations - just the sort of twisted thing he'd do. And I agree about the Batman character, but I've never had a problem with that in these movies. Don't you think Batman Begins did a great job of explaining his backstory and motivations?
Joker switched the locations, what better way to "get" Batman than to have him save the wrong person he wanted to save?
Her death seemed contrived, though. Batman made it to Warehouse A to save Dent with time to spare (shielding him better would've saved Dent from the horrific scars) but the police didin't make it to the other location in time to save Rachel. Makes one wonder that if things were reversed -had Batman gone to save "Harvey" instead if the police would've been able to save "Rachel" in time?
I always figured that Batman and the police were already racing against odds (and time); really, the only reason Batman was able to reach the one warehouse in time was because of his turbine-powered motorcycle.
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Of course the Joker knew Batman would go after Rachel, he all but said that during the interrogation. Killing Dent would've martyred him; killing Rachel would devastate Batman and Dent.
Though, Batman doesn't seem devastated enough...yeah, you get the Bruce bummed-out scene, but you'd think he'd truly be pushed to the point of wanting to kill the Joker...that there'd be more inner conflict.
Though, Batman doesn't seem devastated enough...yeah, you get the Bruce bummed-out scene, but you'd think he'd truly be pushed to the point of wanting to kill the Joker...that there'd be more inner conflict.
How did Bruce know hat Dent was targeted (at the fund raising event)?
that was what I was wondering rewatching it. Loeb is dying from his drink and then Bruce sneaks up and silently puts out Harvey
maybe he wire taped the police office or was listening in somewhere.
I'm really pissed on the extras on this disc. The biggest movie of the year and all we get are some fake news clips, trailers, and a slide-show commentary?
Bull. Shit.
I'm not "sorry" I bought it, it's an awesome movie, but I'm totally expecting a post-Oscars mega-edition.
I mean, Heath Ledger died making this movie and has a widely acclaimed performance. You'd think that at the very least there'd be a tribute to him somewhere on this thing.
Completely agreed. If Warners wants to charge extra for a mega-edition with all the features, I'd have no problem paying that (and did for Begins). But putting out a "2-disc special edition" that barely has anything on it is just fucked up and wrong.
There's a scene in the script where a bunch of people at the party are talking about Loeb and Surillo being killed (assistant district attorneys and such, people who would know about this before anyone else) and I guess it is presumed that Wayne found out by listening to them and quickly acted to take out Dent once he knew The Joker had crashed the party, per se.
That scene, while not completely necessary, would have explained why Wayne knew to protect Dent ... the way it is in the movie, it just seems like a really good educated guess that Wayne knew to protect Dent upon The Joker's arrival.
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