The dangers of asking for Bacon...

[Agony_Boothb]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8192344/kfc-employee-screams-insults-at-customer

Read it for yourselves. Bacon should bring people together, not tear them apart!

tis a sad day.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Hm, it looks pretty bad on the surface, but I'm wondering what happened before the video starts since it's clearly the end of the argument and not the beginning (why else would the customer start recording this?), and as the article intimates the customer might not be blameless either. What if he knew this was a halal restaurant and asked for bacon specifically to rile up the employees?

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Punchbowl is well known as having a large islamic population. It would not surprise me in the least if the customer went in to cause trouble.

i really hope the customer service dude doesn't lose his job because of a customer being a douch

edit: Yes! I made Lieutenant Commander. YES! HORNBERGER!

 

[Trekker4747]

Looks like he got his....

... on the side!

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o[/yt]

 

[Switch]

I'm still laughing at the idea of a suburb named Punchbowl.

Punchbowl is well known as having a large islamic population.

But a much larger Christian one.

Still, some interesting stats there. Nearly half of the population was born overseas and speaks Arabic at home. I think this is what's politely referred to as an 'enclave'.

i really hope the customer service dude doesn't lose his job because of a customer being a douch

The 'customers' probably did go in with the intent of causing trouble, and they evidently succeeded. Even KFC has minimum standards of professional conduct. The guy is toast.

 

[auntiehill]

Yeah, it seems fairly clear that the customers went in with the intent of causing trouble and trying to wind the staff up. Sometimes, people are just dicks and forget that there are actual human beings on the other side of the counter.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Yeah, who really goes into a Halal-friendly KFC and asks for bacon, then gets shitty about it when they're refused? Sounds like real-life trolling to me.

 

[Kestra]

I'd appreciate it if there were short summaries when people linked in their posts, especially if it's a video. It's often really inconvenient for me to stop and put on a video in the middle of browsing.

 

[Switch]

I'd appreciate it if there were short summaries when people linked in their posts, especially if it's a video. It's often really inconvenient for me to stop and put on a video in the middle of browsing.

See the following for my reply: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl79bqBieT4

 

[Amaris]

I'd appreciate it if there were short summaries when people linked in their posts, especially if it's a video. It's often really inconvenient for me to stop and put on a video in the middle of browsing.

See the following for my reply: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl79bqBieT4

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[Sector 7]

I assume Halal-friendly means Islamic-friendly? We have no such places in my locale so I am not sure. If they went into such a place to cause trouble, they apparently succeeded.

From my experience, if an employee talked like that to me... he'd be picking up several teeth. Then again, I do not go into a KFC to cause trouble... rather to eat.

 

[Trekker4747]

Is being "Halal" friendly like being kosher and pretty much mean bacon cannot be around at all? Does being Halal Friendly mean that meals have to be gimped and people have to be aware of this stuff when going in there?

Can't the Halal people just simply ask for their food without the bacon like the rest of the adult world does when there's something on the meal they don't want?

 

[Amaris]

Is being "Halal" friendly like being kosher and pretty much mean bacon cannot be around at all? Does being Halal Friendly mean that meals have to be gimped and people have to be aware of this stuff when going in there?

Can't the Halal people just simply ask for their food without the bacon like the rest of the adult world does when there's something on the meal they don't want?

Can't people simply choose to go to a restaurant that isn't "Halal Friendly"? Do you ask for a medium rare steak in a vegetarian cafe? Look, I love bacon. It's the one thing that has kept me from being vegetarian for over 10 years, but if this restaurant is Halal Friendly, it means they don't serve bacon or any other meat that is considered "unclean" and they wouldn't keep it on the premises either. For example, when foods are designated as Kosher, they're made in a facility that does not also manufacture or process non-Kosher foods, otherwise, they're not Kosher. It's not just the food, it's the process involved that goes along with it.

 

[Canadave]

Is being "Halal" friendly like being kosher and pretty much mean bacon cannot be around at all? Does being Halal Friendly mean that meals have to be gimped and people have to be aware of this stuff when going in there?

Can't the Halal people just simply ask for their food without the bacon like the rest of the adult world does when there's something on the meal they don't want?

Can't people simply choose to go to a restaurant that isn't "Halal Friendly"? Do you ask for a medium rare steak in a vegetarian cafe? Look, I love bacon. It's the one thing that has kept me from being vegetarian for over 10 years, but if this restaurant is Halal Friendly, it means they don't serve bacon or any other meat that is considered "unclean" and they wouldn't keep it on the premises either. For example, when foods are designated as Kosher, they're made in a facility that does not also manufacture or process non-Kosher foods, otherwise, they're not Kosher. It's not just the food, it's the process involved that goes along with it.

Quite. And I believe (if Halal rules are similar to kosher rules in this respect) that any employee who handled pork wouldn't be able to also handle other meals and have them still be Halal. So it makes perfect sense for the restaurant to not serve bacon at all, especially in an area with a significant Muslim population. That strikes me as a pretty good business move, actually.

 

[Sector 7]

Is being "Halal" friendly like being kosher and pretty much mean bacon cannot be around at all? Does being Halal Friendly mean that meals have to be gimped and people have to be aware of this stuff when going in there?

Can't the Halal people just simply ask for their food without the bacon like the rest of the adult world does when there's something on the meal they don't want?

I cannot speak for Halal, but I can speak about kosher. If the establishment is kosher that means the employees do not handle non-kosher food. That means the staff does not handle the bacon mentioned in the story. If someone wants bacon, why would they go to a place that does not serve bacon? A Jewish person who keeps kosher will not go to a pizza parlor because he knows they serve pork products. It is simple common sense.

If I saw a sign saying, "We keep Halal" at KFC, I would ask what that means. If I am really hungry for bacon I just go to another restaurant. Again, simple common sense.

 

[Amaris]

Is being "Halal" friendly like being kosher and pretty much mean bacon cannot be around at all? Does being Halal Friendly mean that meals have to be gimped and people have to be aware of this stuff when going in there?

Can't the Halal people just simply ask for their food without the bacon like the rest of the adult world does when there's something on the meal they don't want?

Can't people simply choose to go to a restaurant that isn't "Halal Friendly"? Do you ask for a medium rare steak in a vegetarian cafe? Look, I love bacon. It's the one thing that has kept me from being vegetarian for over 10 years, but if this restaurant is Halal Friendly, it means they don't serve bacon or any other meat that is considered "unclean" and they wouldn't keep it on the premises either. For example, when foods are designated as Kosher, they're made in a facility that does not also manufacture or process non-Kosher foods, otherwise, they're not Kosher. It's not just the food, it's the process involved that goes along with it.

Quite. And I believe (if Halal rules are similar to kosher rules in this respect) that any employee who handled pork wouldn't be able to also handle other meals and have them still be Halal. So it makes perfect sense for the restaurant to not serve bacon at all, especially in an area with a significant Muslim population. That strikes me as a pretty good business move, actually.

Is being "Halal" friendly like being kosher and pretty much mean bacon cannot be around at all? Does being Halal Friendly mean that meals have to be gimped and people have to be aware of this stuff when going in there?

Can't the Halal people just simply ask for their food without the bacon like the rest of the adult world does when there's something on the meal they don't want?

I cannot speak for Halal, but I can speak about kosher. If the establishment is kosher that means the employees do not handle non-kosher food. That means the staff does not handle the bacon mentioned in the story. If someone wants bacon, why would they go to a place that does not serve bacon? A Jewish person who keeps kosher will not go to a pizza parlor because he knows they serve pork products. It is simple common sense.

If I saw a sign saying, "We keep Halal" at KFC, I would ask what that means. If I am really hungry for bacon I just go to another restaurant. Again, simple common sense.

Agreed with both of you. And just to add, if one walks up to the counter and asks for bacon, and the employee says "We don't serve bacon", regardless of the reason, simply accept that and either order something else or leave. It's childishly absurd to argue with an employee over a food item that is not served.

 

[Trekker4747]

Yeah, I'm aware of what is required with being "kosher" so if Halal is the same level of "strictness" then, okay, I can see why it's not a matter of simply picking the bacon off.

With a shrug I'm still saying it's odd since it sort-of goes against the company's menu plan and all that but if they want to be Halal then, okay, fine. The customer who caused this whole problem certainly didn't need to be a see-you-next-Tuesday about the whole deal. I can sympathize with the employee, I've had many a customers get me that enraged.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

From my experience, if an employee talked like that to me... he'd be picking up several teeth. Then again, I do not go into a KFC to cause trouble... rather to eat.

So you would commit assault because some employee lost his cool and was then dragged away by others who were in charge and in control of the situation?

And I was all set to post this:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkcoobYUu8g[/yt]

 

[An Officer]

I wonder what the customer could have said to make him loose his cool like that... that was one serious meltdown!

 

[Amaris]

I wonder what the customer could have said to make him loose his cool like that... that was one serious meltdown!

Good question. I'm not absolving the employee of his actions, because it was over-reacting regardless of what was said, but I really want to know the details of that conversation.