The Constitution class ship in Iowa

[The Wormhole]

This Enterprise was not credited in any way to the San Fransisco shipyard.

Although, the dedication plaque that's on the bridge in the movie still says it was built in the San Fransisco Shipyard, for some reason.

 

[Jeri]

But what Kirk uses or doesn't use is irrelevant to the original argument...

What ship Kirk uses is the crux of the original argument. The original argument complained that Kirk being in the same town as the Enterprise was too much of a coincidence. It assumes Kirk will command the Enterprise -- the one we know.

Except that the one whose reputation we know is not that one; not yet. So, no coincidence. It's just a new design in a shipyard.

 

[Alrik]

RR. This thread has made me wonder that as well. Did they forego the Constitution in this timeline? Was Enterprise the 'first'?

Timo. All good points, but is it coincidence or destiny?

It is possible the Constitution was a test spaceframe, not intended to be commissioned. An NX-1700, that may be changed to NCC-1700 if commissioned after the technology tests were completed.

Think the Space Shuttle Enterprise.

Pretty interesting idea.

 

[OneBuckFilms]

RR. This thread has made me wonder that as well. Did they forego the Constitution in this timeline? Was Enterprise the 'first'?

Timo. All good points, but is it coincidence or destiny?

It is possible the Constitution was a test spaceframe, not intended to be commissioned. An NX-1700, that may be changed to NCC-1700 if commissioned after the technology tests were completed.

Think the Space Shuttle Enterprise.

Pretty interesting idea.

I've not read it in a while, but was this the case with the USS Galaxy prototype for the Galaxy Class?

 

[Red Ranger]

The movie gives no class name for NCC-1701, although an off-focus dedication plaque says "STARSHIP CLASS" just as the plaque on the TOS ship did.

Not a coincidence. Kirk would have used whatever ship at hand to do his job.

But what Kirk uses or doesn't use is irrelevant to the original argument. What is already a coincidence on its own right is that Kirk lives and enrolls in the town where the unique Enterprise is being built. It would remain an intriguing coincidence even if Kirk and the Enterprise never met again.

That's a smaller issue than Kirk getting the command of the ship that was built in his hometown, and that one isn't necessarily a coincidence at all, just like you say. But a truly generic situation would have Kirk growing up in the shadow of some other ship than Starfleet's best and whitest. Unless we postulate that Kirk could only become a hero if inspired by Starfleet's best and whitest.

Timo Saloniemi

"Best and whitest?" Sounds kinda Master Race to me! -- RR

 

[The Wormhole]

It is possible the Constitution was a test spaceframe, not intended to be commissioned. An NX-1700, that may be changed to NCC-1700 if commissioned after the technology tests were completed.

Think the Space Shuttle Enterprise.

Pretty interesting idea.

I've not read it in a while, but was this the case with the USS Galaxy prototype for the Galaxy Class?

It is true the Enterprise D was once referred to as the first Galaxy class starship launched. But that was in Yesterday's Enterprise, which was itself an alternate timeline.

We do see the USS Galaxy in a few of the Dominion War battles on DS9, and was referanced in Nemesis. More info here.

 

[Alrik]

^

Yeah, I think that the Galaxy her self was an after thought because in TNG the only ships mentioned as Galaxy Class or 'sister ships' were the Enterprise and Yamato.

 

[Broccoli]

[...]whereas previous movies have pretty much made it seem like no other planet matters to the Federation than Earth.

Well, Earth and Veridian IV.

 

[The Castellan]

Think the Space Shuttle Enterprise.

Aye, what a lovely pile of junk.

 

[GhostFaceSaint]

Is it nucanon that the nuEnterprise is still a Constitution-class starship? It would be cool if it was indeed established as Enterprise-class, as it should've been long ago! -- RR

They called it a Constitution class starship on the simulator on the Blu-Ray, which made me happy.

 

[The Castellan]

Is it nucanon that the nuEnterprise is still a Constitution-class starship? It would be cool if it was indeed established as Enterprise-class, as it should've been long ago! -- RR

They called it a Constitution class starship on the simulator on the Blu-Ray, which made me happy.

Enterprise Class does not sound that good, anyhow.

 

[Kpnuts]

Meh. I still don't think it makes a lot of sense. Starship construction takes less time than four years.

Are you an expert on starship construction then?

It was the Enterprise.