The Cloud Minders & The Federation

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Methuselah Flint, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. johnnybear

    johnnybear Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Czenite? Surely it was Zenite, plain and simple?
    JB
     
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  2. Shawnster

    Shawnster Commodore Commodore

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    You can lump in Turkana IV to this list. Still a ruined waste during TNG first season. The Federation turned their back and did nothing to help those poor people. And they were Federation citizens!
     
  3. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    ^ No, Turkana IV declared independence and seceded from the Federation.
     
  4. Timo

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    ...Which put an end to the Federation-era misery of rape gangs and whatnot.

    Really, the timeline of "Legacy" suggests the Cadres were a vast improvement over Federation rule.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  5. Mytran

    Mytran Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Maybe not exactly, but they clearly wanted to be left alone

    Captain's log, supplemental. We are in orbit above Turkana Four, an Earth colony that severed relations with the Federation nearly fifteen years ago.
     
  6. Tenacity

    Tenacity Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    No, a small number of thugs basically kidnapped an entire colony of people, and the Federation let them do it.
     
  7. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Also a change in gravitational potential energy when beaming from low altitude to high or vice versa.

    Yes, the transporter can routinely compensate for changes in potential and kinetic energy.
     
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  8. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    And angular momentum and the like. If the device also violates conservation of energy and mass, it's hardly an offense worth mentioning.

    We hear how it happened: there was anarchy under UFP rule, fifteen years before the secession, and the Cadres arose to meet the challenge, offering their services to the government and then becoming the government. Worf thinks the place is still lawless, but his information is fifteen years out of date, based on stories from Tasha Yar who left around when the colony seceded. If anything, the place has too much law, two sets of it with two sets of enforcers - perhaps a commentary on commercial security businesses run amok.

    Timo Saloniemi