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Spoilers The clip from Envoys shows what is wrong with Lower Decks

No, really, I envy you if you can smile or laugh at this. You have another thing to enjoy now. Most humor I don't find funny. King of the Hill was funny. That's the last pop culture thing I think I thought was no -- Better Call Saul -- hilarious. When it's not tragic.
That's why I watch comedians and Let's Plays. Those are more fun than most "comedies" out there nowadays. Lower Decks does just well enough to keep me engaged. But, that's mostly characters.
 
There was a funny idea in theory in this scene, but the execution was totally lifeless.

More laugh-free content from Lower Decks. I'm not hopeful that the series will improve.
 
Mariner diving on top of the entity was supposed to be funny, but it is SO far away from what we might actually see on a Trek show, that the scene comes across practically as slapstick.
See, that's why the scene is funny to me. When a menacing energy being shows up on Star Trek to make trouble for the ship, we don't expect one of the crew to instantly pounce on it and try to shove the thing into a canister. It's both a funny inversion of the tropes, and it sells the idea that Mariner is something of a worldly person who has seen a thing or two in her day. To her a menacing energy being equals automatic trouble and she reacts to it accordingly.
 
See, that's why the scene is funny to me. When a menacing energy being shows up on Star Trek to make trouble for the ship, we don't expect one of the crew to instantly pounce on it and try to shove the thing into a canister. It's both a funny inversion of the tropes, and it sells the idea that Mariner is something of a worldly person who has seen a thing or two in her day. To her a menacing energy being equals automatic trouble and she reacts to it accordingly.
Exactly. And Mariner is a total mission log reader/history buff. She would know such beings are usually trouble.
 
See, that's why the scene is funny to me. When a menacing energy being shows up on Star Trek to make trouble for the ship, we don't expect one of the crew to instantly pounce on it and try to shove the thing into a canister. It's both a funny inversion of the tropes, and it sells the idea that Mariner is something of a worldly person who has seen a thing or two in her day. To her a menacing energy being equals automatic trouble and she reacts to it accordingly.
She has more energy then the energy being ;)
 
Mariner and Tendi walk off. Then Captain Freeman and the gold shirt walk up.
Oh, you’re right, my bad. I got so hung up on the gold shirt that I didn’t pay any attention to the red one.
See, that's why the scene is funny to me. When a menacing energy being shows up on Star Trek to make trouble for the ship, we don't expect one of the crew to instantly pounce on it and try to shove the thing into a canister. It's both a funny inversion of the tropes, and it sells the idea that Mariner is something of a worldly person who has seen a thing or two in her day. To her a menacing energy being equals automatic trouble and she reacts to it accordingly.
Okay, but you just explained the joke, and I agree that’s what they were going for, but did it make you laugh? Was it funny, or did you just know that it was supposed to be funny? And no, I’m not opposed necessarily to a certain amount of slapstick, lord knows I love Seinfeld, but it’s not my favorite type of comedy. I liked what the scene was trying to do, I just don’t think the execution was there.

If LD is going to use slapstick, I think it should be used sparingly and along side more clever and writing. And for god's sake, cut back on the frenetic pace of the dialogue and character action.
 
Her immediate switch to "I'm listening..." was funny, the entity struggling with funny sounds and losing volume as it creates stuff was funny. The purple stripe was odd.
 
The only thing I found remotely funny was the purple stripe idea. Trek tech is so tossed around, utilitarian and generic, the fact that a character talks about one of those things having any style at all is kind of funny. Then wanting one with some new flair to it.

Not "funny" as in actually-made-me-laugh, mind you. Someone upthread said I should watch comedians. Probably right.

Seinfeld still makes me laugh heartily. Jay Leno used to. But not Letterman. Everyone's mileage do vary.
 
I don't think the clip captures what is wrong with LD at all. What is wrong with it is, that I thought the new episode would drop today and it turned out I was mistaken and I have to wait a couple more hours longer than I would like. That's what wrong with LD!
 
Is the clip the problem? Or is the problem that a portion of the fanbase has become joyless and inflexible?
yes.


(edited to add: "Joyless", one might think that word is pronounced the way everyone thinks it is, but it stems from the tlhIngan Hol word joI'leS and therefore ends in a 'sh' sound)
 
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See, they want to make spin on the "malevolent energy creature", but in the practice they do very little with the parody potential. Also, they make Mariner wish for... Totally generic thing, where they could make either something funny in general or some more clever ST reference. Banana - hot was amusing. This one isn´t.

It has shades of Picard's Chabon-created magical wishing doohickey that fixed the ship. :shifty:
 
Is the clip the problem? Or is the problem that a portion of the fanbase has become joyless and inflexible?

There it is again.

Don't laugh at a scene and you're joyless. Couldn't just be you didn't find that particular scene funny, no you are just without joy,
 
Don't laugh at a scene and you're joyless. Couldn't just be you didn't find that particular scene funny, no you are just without joy,
We haven't been given many other options. The fan base has started to strike me as very black and white. See "Not real Star Trek" type arguments.

To the topic of the OP there is nothing "wrong" with the show. It is enjoyable for some and not enjoyable for others, just like something like TNG, for instance. Many fans find TNG enjoyable and relate well to the characters-I do not. So, would those people who find that enjoyment force me to watch TNG and demand I enjoy it? I would hope not...:shifty:

Same with this show. If a person doesn't find it funny then maybe something else will appeal.:shrug:
 
there is nothing "wrong" with the show. It is enjoyable for some and not enjoyable for others, just like something like TNG, for instance. Many fans find TNG enjoyable and relate well to the characters-I do not. So, would those people who find that enjoyment force me to watch TNG and demand I enjoy it? I would hope not...:shifty:

Same with this show. If a person doesn't find it funny then maybe something else will appeal.:shrug:

Trek is for Everyone

There is a Trek FOR Everyone. :)

ETA: I'm wondering if that was intended as a SPOOF of Picard's magical wishing doohickey? :confused:
 
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