The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by The Old Mixer, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    Pretty much everything but Day 2

    The film's "next day" commences with an interview segment featuring a young couple who give some perspective about their personal lives, including their relationships with their families, and challenge preconceptions about hippies by emphasizing that they're not into drugs.

    We then belatedly get the invocation by Swami Satchidananda from Friday afternoon, which immediately followed Richie Havens (7:10 p.m. – 7:20 p.m.).

    The film then jumps way forward to the penultimate act from the festival's extended last night, Sha Na Na, who performed a 7:30am - 8:00am twelve-song set on the morning of Monday, Aug. 18. This set is represented by its tenth song, "At the Hop". Note that while we've come to associate '50s retro primarily with the '70s, if there was already a market for Sha Na Na in 1969, then it must have been very much a thing by that point.

    An inter-performance segment shows us some on-site yoga brief clip of a mass class directed from the stage, then a longer one down in a group of attendees. There's more antidrug sentiment here, as the instructor presents yoga as an alternative to getting high.

    Performances continue with a segment from Sunday, Aug. 17--None other than Joe Cocker iconically belting out the last number in his eleven-song 2:00pm – 3:25pm set, "With a Little Help from My Friends" a man possessed by a Beatles-loving demon:

    Goddamn, that sort of thing is what this immersive retro experience is all about. :weep: :techman:

    Noteworthy cameo: While the Doors weren't at Woodstock, drummer John Densmore can be seen among those standing on the side of the stage in that clip, most clearly at around 4:15, on the left.

    We then get a substantial segment devoted to the Sunday afternoon thunderstorm, which did indeed follow Cocker's performance, and its aftermath. This includes the crew battening down the stage and equipment, a stage-led attempt to chant the rain away, and some attendees getting naked to take an impromptu shower. One kook thinks that the government has been flying planes over the festival to seed the clouds. Following the storm is some impromptu audience drum-chant jamming and the famous playing in the mud, as well as a helicopter that's said to be dropping flowers and dry clothes.

    The Sunday chronology on what should be Saturday continues with the actual act that followed the thunderstorm, Country Joe and the Fish, performing the opening number of a thirteen-song 6:30pm – 8:00pm set, "Rock & Soul Music". Note that Country Joe had also performed a solo set on Saturday, which the film will be getting to.

    Then...TGIF again...Arlo Guthrie is just now arriving and talking about the Freeway being closed! His "Coming into Los Angeles," the first of a seven-song 11:55 p.m. – 12:25 a.m. Friday night set, initially plays over a segment of footage focusing on marijuana smoking, then segues into the performance:

    The film's "second night" continues with Crosby, Still & Nash, who performed a total of sixteen numbers in the wee hours of Monday morning (3:00 a.m. – 4:00 a.m.), part acoustic and part electric. Neil Young was with them, mostly skipping the acoustic set and refusing to be filmed. As the movie's choice selection is the acoustic "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," the announcement for the band is edited to "Crosby, Stills, Nash...," dropping the "and Young" (though the clip below includes it). As mentioned onstage in the film, this is CSN's second-ever live performance. And IIRC, the numbers with Young were the overall debut of the CSNY combo.

    Then we go back in time to earlier the same night for Ten Years After, who performed a six-song 8:15pm – 9:15pm set on Sunday. The performance shown in the film is the last song of the set, "I'm Going Home," an uptempo blues rocker featuring a long jam that includes a '50s rock & roll medley.

    I didn't think I was familiar with the group offhand, but it turns out that I have one of their songs, 1971's "I'd Love to Change the World".



    I hope you're not including the Beatles in this bunch, as the general consensus, including from Roger Ebert, is that they did just fine. And you should have a little more appreciation for the film and group that brought you the Monkees.

    Well, I see no reason for you to bring RJ into this....

    Whatever the initial concept may have been, there was no mistaking what the end product was aping in multiple ways.

    Maybe...certainly up there, but the one I've been watching this weekend is kinda big, too.

    George is particularly surprising, being the "quiet one" and all. And overall they kept him quiet in the film, but he really nailed that solo scene.

    I'm not much of a guitar man, I'm afraid. :lol: The only one I can identify by sight and name is Paul's Hofner bass.

    I just find him to be a throwback to the Four Seasons era (which he was part of), and that sound came out of it seems really passe in 1969.

    In "Young Girl"'s defense, the narrator was fooled about her age, and was pushing her away after he found out.

    I noticed that, but still a classic.

    I hear that there is a ridonculously expensive mammoth audio box set out there.

    Well, I tried. :lol:
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  2. J.T.B.

    J.T.B. Rear Admiral Premium Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    I'm ready to be corrected, but I would guess dashiki.
  3. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    That's the most likely result I was getting, but the image results tend to show something more the size of a baggy T-shirt or jersey. I assumed that the longer, robe-like garment Havens was wearing would have its own name, but I could certainly be wrong.
  4. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Yeah, there were lots of Hippies who were into the whole "my body is a temple" scene. And plenty who weren't.

    I love that Sha Na Na was at Woodstock. :rommie:

    Of course, the drugs were all used up at that point....

    "Rain, rain, go away...."

    To the Hippiecopter!

    That's pretty much how I, and most people, know them, I think.

    It's okay. [​IMG]

    I'm probably rationalizing, but I think it kind of puts me in mind of cheery early 70s stuff like "Rings" or "Beautiful Sunday."

    What th--?! Capitalism?!

    You're probably right. I really only searched for about five minutes. :rommie:
  5. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    Hey look, I found most of Day 2's highlights on "Day 3"

    The film's post-Interfuckingmission Day 3 commences with selections from an act that actually performed early the morning of Sunday, Aug. 17, which was considered the last in the Day 2 lineup, though they followed the Who by two hours: Jefferson Airplane, playing a thirteen-song 8:00 a.m. – 9:40 a.m. set. Grace Slick's "good morning" introduction for "The Other Side of This Life" segues into the fourth song, "Won't You Try/Saturday Afternoon," an enjoyable psychedelic rocker. The clip below doesn't include the intro--possibly from the original theatrical cut?

    This is followed by a segment of attendees making calls home from pay phones, emphasizing the disparity between what the outside world thinks is happening and what the attendees are experiencing. Then Army helicopters come in with medical volunteers and supplies, which includes handling at least one delivery. And there's a girl who appears to be a vendor talking about the festival having been declared a disaster area. We return to the Airplane, playing their eighth song, "Uncle Sam Blues".

    The film then dials back to what's believed to be Saturday around 3:30 p.m. – 3:55 p.m., though the day and time is apparently disputed as John Sebastian wasn't scheduled to perform, but was recruited to contribute a solo acoustic set while attending.
    After Sebastian makes some rambling public service announcements while likely enjoying an enhanced state of mind, the film segues into the last number of his five-song set, "Younger Generation". There's some child nudity in the footage of the attendees that accompanies it, so I won't be posting it.

    Next up, believed to be from a couple hours earlier on Saturday (3:30 p.m. – 3:55 p.m.), also playing an unscheduled solo acoustic set...
    This is, of course, the intro to the ninth number in his ten-song set, the can't-get-more-sign-o-the-timesy-than-this "The 'Fish' Cheer/I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die Rag," complete with onscreen lyrics and singalong bouncing ball.

    Then there's a segment in which local residents and a vendor are interviewed about how the festival has impacted them, which transitions to some attendees skinny dipping and bathing in the pond.

    On to the actual next act on Saturday, Santana, playing the seventh in an eight-number 2:00 p.m. – 2:45 p.m. set, the instrumental "Soul Sacrifice". Santana's debut album is just around the corner at this point, about to be released at the end of the month. There's some adult nudity in the movie's version of the clip. The clip below appears to be a different, single-screen edit of the performance footage that avoids that issue:

    Skip ahead half a day to the wee hours (3:30 a.m. – 4:20 a.m.) of Sunday morning...which must be the Funkadelic Hour, because Sly & the Family Stone are treating the audience to the seventh song in a nine-song set, which expresses their desire to get the crowd even more baked than they already are:

    This performance is followed by a singalong segment called "Higher".

    The Who were the next act on Sunday morning, for what it's worth. But the film takes us back to the previous act...Janis Joplin accompanied by her Kozmic Blues Band, wailing the eighth song of a ten-song 2:00 a.m. – 3:00 a.m. set, "Work Me, Lord":

    The final performances in the film will get us back on chronological track with the final act of the festival...which was technically part of the Sunday/Monday itinerary, but occurred well after sunup, when most of the audience had dispersed. Yes, even hippies who've been spending the weekend naked in mud, stoned out of their minds, want to beat the traffic and get back home to their jobs and families. I think I'll cover the daytime hours of Monday the 18th, and the festival's most iconic moment, in a separate post.


    Had to look both of those up. The second seemed kinda vaguely familiar.
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  6. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    "The outbreak must be contained."

    Now that's a concert. :rommie: I wonder who was born at Woodstock, and if they know....

    "Don't try this at home, kids...."

    The first time I saw the "Gimme an F" sequence, of course, was in Omega Man.

    I wonder how many people called in Woodstocked. :rommie:

    A couple of one-hit wonders, I think. Both are in my MP3 folder.
  7. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    Day 4

    The film's day opens with a segment of Wavy Gravy making an announcement about breakfast being served by the free kitchens, which, given the chronological liberties of this film, I doubt is actually from Monday. Grace Slick is standing at the side of the stage, which makes me think that it was probably Sunday morning, when the Airplane performed.

    A guy sucking the shit out the portable toilets I really didn't need to see. I appreciate his service, but...

    Introducing Max Yasgur to the audience is appropriately placed, and just maybe might have happened on Monday, but again I wouldn't be surprised if it was maybe from the day before.

    On to the thing that definitely happened Monday morning: at a point when most of the festival's 400,000 attendees had already departed, leaving only about 30,000, Jimi Hendrix and his temporary band, Gypsy Sun & Rainbows, play a sixteen-song 9:00 a.m. – 11:10 a.m. set, which the film picks up at number twelve, "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)"/"Stepping Stone," including a bit where he plucks the guitar with his teeth.

    In real life and the film, this leads immediately into the festival's most iconic moment...

    ...which in turn is followed by "Purple Haze," during which the footage segues ahead for a bit during the song to the empty, extremely littered stage and festival grounds.

    "Haze" leads into the later-titled instrumentals "Woodstock Improvisation" and "Villanova Junction," while footage of the cleanup plays...followed by footage of people leaving, which seems a bit out of order even given the chronological track record of the film. There's a long, circling helicopter shot of the full crowd before the end credits commence, accompanied by CSNY's rendition of the Joni Mitchell-written "Woodstock," which was contemporaneous with the release of the film in March 1970, though I read that this a different version from the single. The very last part of the film as I watched it is obviously specific to the 1994 Director's Cut...a montage of names (in a visual style that evokes the Vietnam Memorial Wall) of major '60s figures who were no longer with us at that point, including the Kennedys, Martin Luther King, and John Lennon, and then a final memorial card for the "Woodstock Generation," with unfinished birth and death dates.

    The audio from most of Jimi's performances shown in the film (the instrumentals seem to be missing) can officially be found here...with some commentary over it, alas:

    Now that was a finale...for the film, and for the decade.



    A list of the performances used in the film, placed in actual chronological order:

    Friday, August 15 – Saturday, August 16

    Richie Havens
    5:07 p.m. – 6:00 p.m.
    "Handsome Johnny"
    "Freedom (Motherless Child)"

    Swami Satchidananda
    7:10 p.m. – 7:20 p.m.
    Invocation (excerpt)

    Arlo Guthrie
    11:55 p.m. – 12:25 a.m.
    "Coming into Los Angeles"

    Joan Baez
    12:55 a.m. – 2:00 a.m.
    "Joe Hill"
    "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot"

    Saturday, August 16 – Sunday, August 17

    Country Joe McDonald
    1:20 p.m. – 1:30 p.m.
    "The "Fish" Cheer/I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die Rag"

    2:00 p.m. – 2:45 p.m.
    "Soul Sacrifice"

    John Sebastian
    3:30 p.m. – 3:55 p.m.
    "Younger Generation"

    Canned Heat
    7:30 p.m. – 8:30 p.m.
    "A Change Is Gonna Come / Leaving This Town"

    Janis Joplin with the Kozmic Blues Band
    2:00 a.m. – 3:00 a.m.
    "Work Me, Lord"

    Sly & the Family Stone
    3:30 a.m. – 4:20 a.m.
    "I Want to Take You Higher"

    The Who
    5:00 a.m. – 6:05 a.m.
    "See Me, Feel Me"
    "Summertime Blues"

    Jefferson Airplane
    8:00 a.m. – 9:40 a.m.
    "Won't You Try/Saturday Afternoon"
    "Uncle Sam Blues"

    Sunday, August 17 – Monday, August 18

    Joe Cocker with the Grease Band
    2:00 p.m. – 3:25 p.m.
    "With a Little Help from My Friends"

    (Thunderstorm segment)

    Country Joe and the Fish
    6:30 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
    "Rock & Soul Music"

    Ten Years After
    8:15 p.m. – 9:15 p.m.
    "I'm Going Home"

    Crosby, Stills & Nash
    3:00 a.m. – 4:00 a.m.
    "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes"

    Sha Na Na
    7:30 a.m. - 8:00 a.m.
    "At the Hop"

    Jimi Hendrix
    9:00 a.m. – 11:10 a.m.
    "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)"/"Stepping Stone"
    "The Star-Spangled Banner"
    "Purple Haze"
    "Woodstock Improvisation"
    "Villanova Junction"


    A list of acts who performed at Woodstock but weren't in the film for whatever reason:

    Bert Sommer
    Tim Hardin
    Ravi Shankar
    Melanie Safka
    The Keef Hartley Band
    The Incredible String Band
    Grateful Dead
    Creedence Clearwater Revival
    The Band
    Johnny Winter
    Blood, Sweat & Tears
    Neil Young (with Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)
    Paul Butterfield Blues Band


    Given that this became All About the Film, I kinda feel like I should belatedly post this...

    Ahead-of-50th Anniversary Cinematic Special

    Directed by Michael Wadleigh
    Released March 26, 1970
    1971 Academy Award for Best Documentary, Features (Bob Maurice); Nominee for Best Sound (Dan Wallin, L.A. Johnson) and Best Film Editing (Thelma Schoonmaker)

    Watching the last performance segment got me jonesin' for some Jimi, given the lack of Hendrix 50th anniversary business this year.


    I read that there were two births...and knowing Baby Boomers, they've probably never stopped hearing about it.

    I have to wonder how many kids have been told they were born at Woodstock who weren't.

    One also has to wonder why a woman who was ready to drop any day was spending the weekend at an outdoor rock festival. (One of the mothers was stuck in the traffic jam, so may not have been an attendee.)

    Never seen the movie so I had to look that up. The clip I found of Heston watching the film didn't include "The 'Fish' Cheer"...edited for TV, perhaps?
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  8. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    For the couch potatoes who couldn't make it to Bethel...

    50th Anniversary Viewing

    The Ed Sullivan Show
    Season 21, episode 38
    Originally aired August 17, 1969
    As represented in The Best of the Ed Sullivan Show

    Yep, they're still running the occasional new episode this late into the summer, and this isn't even the last one, though it is the last represented on Best of.

    Assuming this was a live appearance, I can't help wondering if these guys might have passed up a more historic gig this weekend. Anyway, they're here in part to give us a medley of prior hits "Born to Be Wild" and "Magic Carpet Ride". The clip below only shows the first part.

    This appears to be the same act by Brenn that I covered for the February 16 episode. Same set, same suit, bowls on poles, plates spinning on the table, balancing a tray of eggs from a pole on his forehead. I have to wonder if this wasn't recycled in both the original broadcast and Best of, and/or if maybe the two episodes edited his act differently. I don't have the other episode on my DVR to compare it to.

    This also calls into question whether any of this episode was filmed live. Maybe it was odds and ends filmed on other dates.

    The Italian-American tenor sings a Mexican song called "Noche de Ronda" with words and phrases not in our tongue, while playing and slapping an acoustic guitar, accompanied by an unseen orchestra:

    The band perform a recent single called "It's Never Too Late" (charted May 10, 1969; #51 US) that they may have been there to promote if the performance was filmed earlier:

    It's an OK number, but I can hear why it wasn't a bigger hit. Best of didn't have the last part where the band went over to shake hands with Ed. John Kay was pretty tall!

    Also in the original episode according to
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  9. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 24, 2006
    Escaped from Delta Vega

    Someone who was genuine with her support of / involvement in movements such as civil rights in the 60s, letting the movement lead her, instead of dumping her perspective on those affected by it.


    No matter the length of the track, their set was Class A live performing. Its difficult to think of another British Invasion act that year with a better command of the stage / live interpretation of their recordings (e.g., compare it to the Rolling Stones 1969 live performances...yikes).

    That's too bad, because the incident became an instant part of the lore of Woodstock and that window of time. Pete has since expressed regret over his treatment of Hoffman, but I can understand why he reacted the way he did at the time.
  10. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    I wonder what they served. I would have been ready for some fried eggs and corned-beef hash at that point.

    I wonder how much bragging he did about his attendance at Woodstock. And if you can catch a second-hand high from the smell of Woodstock shit.

    Thanks, Max!

    And most people missed it. :(


    Yeah. Unfortunately, I think it was all downhill from there.

    "I expected better from somebody who was born at Woodstock!" :rommie:

    I imagine that would be easy enough to disprove. But I wonder how many people were conceived at Woodstock. :rommie:

    Intending to deliver there? Underestimating the event?

    You never saw Omega Man? :eek: I'm pretty sure it had part of the cheer when I saw it on TV in the early 70s, but who knows?

    Heh. Imagine Ed broadcasting live from Yasgur's Farm. :rommie:
  11. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut

    The Saint
    "The Ex-King of Diamonds"
    Originally aired January 19, 1969 (UK)
    At the party/tournament/whatever, Simon strikes up a rivalry with handsome Texas oil baron Rod Huston...who's actually played by an American actor, Stuart Damon, so I can tell that he's trying to do a Texas accent.

    One of the other players is mathematician Henri Flambeau (Ronald Radd), who can calculate complex odds while at a card table, mostly in his head (with a little bit of writing on his sleeve), and is reluctantly using that talent to pay the bills. He figures that King Boris (Willoughby Goddard)'s run of luck is too far afoul of probability and immediately goes to personally investigate the conveniently local factory that made the cards to find that they're rigged...which seems like a bit of a stretch in more than one way. He and his daughter, Janine (Isla Blair), who'd previously had a flirtatious encounter with Simon and Rod, are caught by the baddies...chief among them being an aide of the king, Col. Rakosi (Paul Stassino, a.k.a. Palazzi in Thunderball), who was pressing the king to raise money to pay for a mysterious consignment.

    Simon convinces Rod to help him investigate the cheating angle after a fistfight, and the two of them run into "Professor Plum" on the road, about to be burned alive in his car by the baddies. (It seems like the heroes in British shows always just run into the baddies doing their foul deeds on country roads.) Going back to the card factory with the rescued professor, they discover that the cards have an overprint that can be seen by the King's infrared monacle; and a find an entrance to a watery underground catacomb in which a guy in a wetsuit is persuaded to tell them that the consignment is going to smuggled in via the King's yacht.

    The professor informs Simon that the infrared gimmick can be thwarted by an ordinary sunlamp... Simon installs one in the baccarat table's overhead fixture before going back to the catacombs with Rod for Smuggling Hour. Relieving a couple of goons of their wetsuits, they discover that the consignment is a set of detonation charges to be used in a revolution, then rescue Janine. Before leaving, Simon also sets one of the charges and puts it back in its box in the yacht's hold.

    Back at the table, the Professor has been having a run of "luck" at the expense of the King, who goes into a panic when Simon whispers what he's done in His Majesty's ear. Later Simon and pals are watching a fireworks display when the yacht goes up.

    Had the series gone on, I think that somebody like Huston might have made a good recurring foil for Simon. Their chemistry kind of reminded me of Bond and Felix Leiter (who was a Texan in the books, something that was lost in his various screen portrayals).


    "The Earrings"
    Originally aired January 23, 1969
    The timing seems a bit off for a Valentine's Day episode. Continuity point: Ann's allergic to roses. And you'd think Donald would have learned that by now.

    Jerry gets upset when he hears about Donald's gift to Ann because he only got Ruth peanut brittle; Ruth gets a cracked tooth and muses that cheapskate Jerry'll just have to pay for a gold crown.

    Looking for the right place to plant his replacement earring, Donald goes into Ann's apartment when she's not home and attempts to retrace her likely movements that night, which includes acting out her crying in bed over losing the earring.

    Short-term continuity point: Ann buys her replacement with money she's been saving for her taxes. See next episode. Donald knows that Ann's faking having found her earring because it's not where he planted his, and he retrieves that one. Then the restaurant where they went on their date calls to say that they found the original and both come clean.

    "Oh, Donald" count: 11 (including a big exclamation when she gets the earrings); and while I haven't been counting them, there are also 2 "Oh, but, Donald"'s
    "Oh, Ruthie" count: 2


    The Avengers
    "The Morning After"
    Originally aired January 29, 1969 (UK)
    It seems like I've seen that before...and on the same series!

    The episode begins with Steed and Tara running an operation to capture Merlin (Peter Barkworth). When Steed recovers from Merlin's sleep bomb, he leaves Tara sleeping in the apartment where they captured him. On the streets of the town, Steed finds hastily abandoned vehicles and other signs of quick evacuation, like milk left on doorsteps and money blowing out of a bank. He catches and handcuffs himself to Merlin, but they come across soldiers chasing a straggler down and executing him on the excuse of assuming that he's a looter. Sergeant Hearn (Brian Blessed) then finds Steed and Merlin and tries to execute them.

    Having gotten out of that bind, the duo find a pair of TV reporters in a van (Penelope Horner and Philip Dunbar) who fill them in on the evacuation of the town, supposedly because of an enemy-planted atom bomb. When Steed decides to go to the offincer in charge, Brigadier Hansing (Joss Ackland) and show his credentials, Merlin blows the plan when he claims that he recognizes a major as an Eastern agent. They confirm that they're dealing with imposters when they subsequently find the actual troops drugged unconscious. Steed and Merlin learn that Hansing has gone rogue and is actually building a bomb, with the plan of using it for extortion once everyone's back in town.

    In the meantime, Sgt. Hearn has somehow found Tara, still sleeping in the apartment. When Steed and Merlin go there an are cornered, Tara comes to just in time to overpower the sergeant, but Merlin lobs another bomb and knocks her back out. Steed and Merlin then team up and make use of Merlin's sleep bombs to defeat the bad guys, after which Steed lets Merlin go. There's a gag in which they try to fake Steed using legerdemain to make a handcuff key appear in his hand, but the camera edit is very obvious.

    In the coda, Steed's switching off a television while saying "Sock it to me" he supposed to be watching Laugh-In?

    Steed finding himself in a tight situation while handcuffed to an enemy agent would have been more interesting if it had been a recurring nemesis.

    And that'll be the end of The Avengers for our purposes here. If and when I might fit in trying out the pre-Peel seasons again, only time will tell. 75th anniversary retro...?


    "Many Happy Returns"
    Originally aired January 30, 1969
    And this one seems a little too early for tax season. The agent who comes to inform Ann of her audit, Leon Cobb (Jack Mullaney), is kind of meek and unsure of himself, leading to Ann misunderstanding his motives. When he finally tells her, it turns out that she owes $2600 and hasn't been opening the mail they've sent her, thinking it was advertisements. The taxes owed are from 1965, which they say was her first year in New York. That's a year before the series started, though maybe the episode that shows her moving away from home was supposed to take place that much earlier than the rest of the series. Another odd continuity issue: Ann has Ruth Bauman's phone number in her old checkbook from 1965, even though she wasn't on the show until 2nd season.

    Tomfoolery includes Donald spilling flour all over himself because Ann keeps it on her hall closet shelf next to her records; and Donald learning while attempting to piece together Ann's finances that she always over-records checks by 50 cents so that she never overdraws from the bank. Also, Ann and Donald have to sneak around Mr. Marie in their efforts to work things out before the deadline, and he's being extra-suspicious that Donald's trying to stay at Ann's place, to the point of following Donald home and staking out his place.

    And it turns out that Ann exaggerated her income on that year's tax return to fool her father into thinking that she was doing better in the city than she actually was.

    The episode's ending punchline uses an unusual multiple freeze frame device.

    "Oh, Donald" count: 9
    "Oh, Daddy" count: 0


    There are audio-only clips on YouTube. "Get off my fucking stage!!!"

    Looked like rice or some kind of hash. Wavy specifically said that it wouldn't be steak and eggs.

    He did better than that, he was in the film! (Though the shit-sucking scene might have been exclusive to the Director's Edition.)

    They say that people were still leaving during his set...that those who'd stayed that long had done so just to get a glimpse of him.

    It wasn't that bad...

    Well, he did introduce the Beatles at Shea Stadium....
  12. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 24, 2006
    Escaped from Delta Vega
    Not really a fan of That Girl, but Thomas really knew how to tear up her face for a laugh.

    I've heard that. In fact, its an extra on disc two of the 1994 CD box set, Thirty Years of Maximum R&B. I only wish the film footage was available.
  13. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    50th Anniversary Fly-on-the-Wall Listening

    On various days between July 23 and August 18, 1969, the Beatles were working on elements of the song that would be the finale of Abbey assembled here in a new mix for Anthology 3 (including the liberty of a certain piano chord from 1967):

    And speaking of Abbey Road (plug, plug)...


    I caught her guest appearance on My Favorite Martian on Cozi recently (as that show's back in their schedule)...she played a completely different character with a completely different look, and was practically unrecognizable as the same person who played Ann Marie.
  14. gblews

    gblews Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Apr 13, 2004
    So. Cal.
    My recollection of the way Woodstock was reported on the news was the emphasis placed on how peaceful it was. I had been to a number of concerts at that point in my life and there was never any violence, so it was puzzling to me as to why a peaceful concert, even one as big as Woodstock,was considered such an anomaly. I guess the clashes between young people and the police and violence at particular concerts was a significant influence on how Woodstocl was perceived

    I read that Joni Mitchell was supposed to make an impromptu appearance and did show up in a helicopter, Supposedly, they couldn't find a place to land, so she bagged it. I've thought since then that if she'd known what a cultural touchstone the concert and subsequent movie would be, she'd have told the pilot to get a bit lower and she would have jumped. :)

    First time I saw the movie, like most, I was amazed. The world's first "modern" pop music "festival", the precursor by 50 years to Coachella, Lollapalooza, Isle of Wight etc. Boomers can rightly be blamed for a lot of negative stuff in the world's recent history, but they pretty much were the generation that wrote the book when it came to popular music. Sorry for the flex. :angel:
    Yeah, I'll amend that to (HDN) being the most important non concert rock movie of it's era.
    I've always admired the hell out of guitarists who are able to carry a band with one guitar. Playing lead and rhythm while singing and leading the band, to me, is mind boggling. But to guys like Jimi, Jimmy, Pete, etc, it was the only way to do it
    Wait, was Sha Na Na THAT popular in 1969? Their appearance in the movie has always made me laugh. Bowser must have had some pictures or something. :lol:
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  15. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Is it illegal to make marked cards or just to use them?

    If evil villains didn't waste so much money on their evil villain equipment, they wouldn't need to commit crimes.

    As a bonus, it can also treat mood disorders that lead to a life of crime.

    His flower-buying habits are probably as erratic as his restaurant habits.

    The "everything is deserted" trope was very popular back in the day.

    Harsh. Maybe they should send somebody to gather up the blowing money.

    Not a good episode for Tara.

    He is a man of refined taste, after all.

    I used to worry about that when I was young and poor, so I would never record coin deposits-- like when I'd roll up spare change (remember those pre-Coinstar rollers?).



    Oooh, there's my new ringtone.

    Worth the extra money.

    Actually, that's pretty good. :rommie:

    That must be why I don't remember ever seeing her. I'll have to dig out my DVDs.

    And speaking of schedule changes, MeTV sent out their Fall schedule. The bad news is that they still have Three Stooges listed on Saturday night (other changes are the addition of Barnaby Jones, Bat Masterson, and The Flinstones.
  16. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    55 Years Ago This Week

    Also on August 28, a momentous, game-changing occasion covered in neither the Wiki timeline nor, surprisingly, the Lewisohn book: The Beatles meet Bob...and his friend Mary Jane.

    Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
    Leaving the chart:
    • "The Girl from Ipanema," Getz / Gilberto (12 weeks)
    • "I Like It Like That," The Miracles (9 weeks)
    • "Nobody I Know," Peter & Gordon (9 weeks)

    Recent and new on the chart:

    "Out of Sight," James Brown & His Orchestra

    (Aug. 15; #24 US; #5 R&B)

    "Funny (How Time Slips Away)," Joe Hinton

    (Aug. 15; #13 US; #1 R&B)

    "I'm on the Outside (Looking In)," Little Anthony & The Imperials

    (Aug. 22; #15 US; #8 R&B)

    "Save It for Me," The Four Seasons

    (#10 US)

    "Oh, Pretty Woman," Roy Orbison

    (#1 US the weeks of Sept. 26 through Oct. 10, 1964; #1 UK; #222 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)

    Total Beatles songs on the chart: 5


    It wasn't that it was a concert, it was that it was an unprecedented, out-of-control mass gathering of the counterculture that got the place declared a disaster area and had Nelson Rockefeller wanting to call in the National Guard (which he was talked down from).

    Think you might wanna check the dates on some of those. :p

    No argument there.

    If you mean why were they used while those other acts weren't, some of them chose not to be in the film, including Fogerty for CCR.

    Actually, if they were going to sideline her for the episode, they found a cute if contrived way of doing it. The bit where she comes to just long enough to groggily jump into the fight and then immediately gets knocked out again was definitely being played for laughs.


    Pete's voice is only semi-audible in the clips I heard.

    Well that blows about the Stooges. Crossing my fingers that H&I might add WWW to its lineup (it's been on there before). The Flintstones I knew about...Me's been doing little teaser interruptions of their own ads for other shows.
  17. gblews

    gblews Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Apr 13, 2004
    So. Cal.
    One of a string of releases that hinted at the harder funk James would create in a few years.
    This group turned out some of the great begging songs of all time. On the Outside, Tears on My Pillow, I'm Still In Love With You, Goin Out of My Head, and IMO, the best of the lot, Hurt So Bad, took the sub sub genre to a new level.

    I loved how the songs would always start with Anthony in a calm but tense voice, and would always end with him in an all out begging frenzy.
    I was a big Roy Orbison fan. Dude had a great voice and knew his way around a song about unrequited love.
    Yeah, yeah, give or take (mostly take) 10 or 15 years. I'm too lazy to look up when those two festivals started.
    Never occurred to me that any of the acts would not want to be in the movie. But it was a different time and entertainment sensibilities were were different. Still seems crazy to me that Sha Na Na made the cut. They were nothing more than a novelty act.
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  18. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    That's fantastic. That should have its own Wiki page. It should be a major motion picture. :rommie:

    Yep, that's James Brown, all right.

    Those minutes slipped away.


    Kind of a slow week here.

    But there we go! A classic for the ages!

    That does sound like a Tara moment. :rommie:

    Ah, that's a shame.

    Great! Thank you.

    I'm hoping it's a mistake or that they're just going to run through this new Stooges syndication package or whatever it is. I'm thinking they must be getting paid a lot to run it.
  19. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    50 Years Ago This Week


    And The Old Mixer, being two months and change behind Mary (and not having appeared on the back of any album covers), is the size of a large cabbage.

    Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:

    Leaving the chart:
    • "My Pledge of Love," The Joe Jeffrey Group (12 weeks)
    • "Quentin's Theme," The Charles Randolph Grean Sounde (11 weeks)
    • "Questions 67 and 68," Chicago (3 weeks)
    • "Spinning Wheel," Blood, Sweat & Tears (13 weeks)
    • "Who Do You Love," Quicksilver Messenger Service (3 weeks)

    New on the chart:

    "Sugar on Sunday," The Clique

    (#22 US)

    "What's the Use of Breaking Up," Jerry Butler

    (#20 US; #4 R&B)

    Of perhaps greater historical interest than "Sugar on Sunday" is its B-side, which was covered in the '80s by R.E.M.:


    I think it hints more at his more immediately upcoming major breakout signature hits.


    Interesting analysis. I'll be listening with the begging in mind.

    Have we met a Four Seasons song that you don't like?

    His signature hit, and definitely a heavyweight of the era.

    The better part of 30 for Lollapalooza.

    Will you settle for a brief clip from the Beatles Anthology documentary?

    Also found this while I was looking:
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  20. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Ah, your salad days.

    Here's another one that sounds like a cheery early 70s song.

    Not bad.

    Now this definitely has that 60s vibe.

    Well, I didn't hate it, but it's not quite their greatest hit.

    Nice. I think I'll buy that book. I would have loved to have been there that night. I'll put it on my list of time travel destinations. :rommie: