The City on the Edge of Forever

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Trekker4747, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

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    This is my favorite episode of the entire franchise. There's really nothing else like it, even the best of my favorite series (TNG) can't compare. It's just an elegant, beautiful, episode with great performances from the three main characters and Joan Collins's Edith Keeler.

    There's a moment in it that for me really sums up the "spirit" of Trek as I see it and that's a future of humanity that's gotten it's shit together. Keeler, who's literally met an alien (though she doesn't know it) finds the behavior in Kirk more bizarre and out of place to 1930 Depression Era America than Spock's entire modius operandi.

    She notes that his work ethic and says his behavior puts him out of place as if he belongs somewhere else entirely, he's unlike any man she's ever met. And that, to me, is just the "magic" I have for Trek. A future where humanity has gotten it's shit together and behaves properly. Yeah, there's some slips here and there, but overall we got our act together.

    The "aura" I get from the likes of Discovery is that the people of that ship, in that series, wouldn't stand out in the same way Kirk does in 1930s Earth. They'd blend right in as their behavior, from what I've seen, just seems too "common" to present-day behavior. The "magic" of Trek's future is lost in that series.

    For me.

    But, CotEoF for me is just, really, a wonderful, beautiful, episode and I really feel Kirk's pain as he strains away from watching Keeler get hit by the car and his, "Let's get the hell out of here," at the end. ("Hell" as an expletive in 1960s TV?! People's ears must've caught fire!")

    Collins is just lovely and marvelous in this, easy to see how Kirk fell for her and her uncommon ways. Too bad she was herself out of her time to the point she was a threat to all of humanity so she had to die.

    It's the episode I devote myself to watching for Trek's anniversary. (Which I'm recognizing a few days late this year. Been a bit busy/side-tracked.)
     
  2. Doctor Bombay

    Doctor Bombay Serial Cat Lover Premium Member

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    It's my favorite too. It moves so smoothly mainly because it went through so many rewrites... polished like a gem.

    And you're right. The denizens of STD really don't stand out beside the people of today.
     
  3. Commishsleer

    Commishsleer Commodore Commodore

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    Yes I agree probably the best episode of Trek.
    But being so not really say representative of the series like Picard's flute playing episode - a great episode for the lead.
    This was also a great episode for Spock and sort of defined the Kirk Spock relationship to me. I'm not sure whether Ellison put in the line about Spock belonging at Kirk's side or was it in the rewrites..
     
  4. johnnybear

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    But Kirk isn't an alien is he, he just works in outer space!
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    I mean, that Keeler has met an alien (Spock) but finds Kirk's behavior more noteworthingly "odd" to point out how out of place he seems.
     
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  6. Guy Gardener

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    Beautiful people draw us in, and then we got to turn the world upside down sometimes to justify wanting to kiss one of them, before we know their surname.
     
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    It felt like a great movie. Even now when I watch it, it feels like a movie's worth of material in a show without seeming at all rushed.
     
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  9. Delta Vega

    Delta Vega Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Over rated
    Joan Collins really is a pollution
     
  10. johnnybear

    johnnybear Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    A pollution? How do you come by that theory, Delt?
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  11. Delta Vega

    Delta Vega Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I just don't like her Johnny, its my opinion, I suppose others will love her.
    She's an insufferable diva.
     
  12. johnnybear

    johnnybear Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well maybe, Delt! I know my Mother saw her once in real life in London back in the fifties and she was disgusted with her because she didn't flush the toilet! :lol:
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