"The Cage" outtakes
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For the DVDs onwards you mean?
No. I meant when they re-purposed the first pilot for "The Menagerie" they pitch-shifted Throne's voice.
If CBS was interested in spending the effort and money, a reconstruction of the original color "Cage" pilot could probably be done using footage from the two part "Menagerie", the re-found color "Cage" footage, and technically restored soundtrack from the 16mm black & white Cage reel.
That's right. I saw a youtube video at some point that I can't find now, but in 1966 they had an electronic audio processing box (analog technology) that could create the unnatural-sounding pitch shift without altering the tape speed. So Throne's Keeper voice wasn't sped up, it was just "filtered."
Yes, sir, they used an Eltro. Here's a good page on the apparatus.
There are already seven versions of "The Cage":
1. The original, surviving as GR's 16mm b&w print.
2. "The Menagerie" two-parter edit.
3. The 1986 b&w/color hybrid.
4. The 1988 all-color version.
5. The 2001 DVD version.
6. The 2006 TOS-R (CGI) version on DVD and Blu-ray.
7. The 2009 Blu-ray version with original fx.
That's more attention than most TV episodes get in a lifetime.
I was thinking of re-creating, the original all color print shown to NBC execs and test audiences in early 1965, which hasn't existed since it was cut up in the production of the broadcast "Menagerie".
Besides the versions you listed, there is also whatever workprint existed that featured the cut scenes (Orion slave girl being flogged, discussion between Pike and the women in the cell) that were never included in any released version but were cut up and sold by Lincoln Enterprises and are found in the book Star Trek: Lost Scenes.
Besides the versions you listed, there is also whatever workprint existed that featured the cut scenes (Orion slave girl being flogged, discussion between Pike and the women in the cell) that were never included in any released version but were cut up and sold by Lincoln Enterprises and are found in the book Star Trek: Lost Scenes.
Is this correct? Numbers refer to ZapBrannigan's list posted above.
Malachi Throne's Keeper Voice:
1. Original low pitch
2. Altered, high pitch
3. Original voice in black and white footage from 16mm, altered voice in color "Menagerie" footage
4. Original voice from 16mm used with re-found (and silent) color footage replacing 16mm visuals, altered voice from "Menagerie" footage still used in all other scenes
5. Same as #4
6. Newly altered voice used to replace original voice scenes, "Menagerie" altered voice remains elsewhere
7. Not sure -- same as #6?
Malachi Throne's Keeper Voice:
1. Original low pitch
2. Altered, high pitch
3. Original voice in black and white footage from 16mm, altered voice in color "Menagerie" footage
4. Original voice from 16mm used with re-found (and silent) color footage replacing 16mm visuals, altered voice from "Menagerie" footage still used in all other scenes
5. Same as #4
6. Newly altered voice used to replace original voice scenes, "Menagerie" altered voice remains elsewhere
7. Not sure -- same as #6?
Here it is. Photos from the scene (along with the relevant script section) were also on the startrekhistory.com website, but that is no longer up. The script itself can be accessed at
http://www.knowitalljoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Star-Trek-the-Cage-Secretarial-Copy.pdf
It definitely would have added something to the world building to include a green man or two in the scenario. But the exact identity of the green species was still vague at this point. Just going by what is shown in The Cage and excluding stuff about Orions from later Trek, Pike and Boyce's conversation shows that Pike himself as a non-green human could be an "Orion trader" on the "Orion Colony."
And Pike's fellow rogue in his fantasy, the balding guy with the earring and the shiny cloak, was apparently human, or at least one of the various peoples who look exactly like humans who would show up later in the series. The green species wasn't specifically referred to as Orions, but described as "green animal women" that the Orion traders sold as slaves.
So perhaps it was meant to be a colonial situation wherein the humans (or human lookalikes) of the Orion Colony were in power as cutthroat traders, and the native green species of the Orion planet (who probably called themselves a completely different name than "Orion") was subjugated and treated as a commodity.
Edit: Maurice said it more succinctly!
Edit again: It also fits in with the line in that script about "the Orion traders taking shocking advantage of the natives."
Kor
And Pike's fellow rogue in his fantasy, the balding guy with the earring and the shiny cloak, was apparently human, or at least one of the various peoples who look exactly like humans who would show up later in the series. The green species wasn't specifically referred to as Orions, but described as "green animal women" that the Orion traders sold as slaves.
So perhaps it was meant to be a colonial situation wherein the humans (or human lookalikes) of the Orion Colony were in power as cutthroat traders, and the native green species of the Orion planet (who probably called themselves a completely different name than "Orion") was subjugated and treated as a commodity.
Edit: Maurice said it more succinctly!
Edit again: It also fits in with the line in that script about "the Orion traders taking shocking advantage of the natives."
Kor
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My impression is that at the time "The Cage" was made, Orion was seen as a multiracial society -- both the slavemaster and the musicians are all a bronzed hue. An Orion serving girl in the cut footage is described in the script as having skin "a color like Mister Spock", who was then supposed to be reddish. Only the "animal women" used as slaves may have been green.
Regarding the slimy trader seated with Pike, the script calls him an "Earth Trader", not an Orion (or other non-Earth being).
The Orion illusion sequence went through several iterations:
1. There was the original version that was scripted and filmed. This version is recreated in Lost Scenes via clip images and the shooting script. It includes the non-green female servants feeding the trio around the table, the non-green male servant lashing Vina with the whip, etc.
2. There was a "long" version (using Roddenberry's notation) that shortened the sequence, e.g., by removing the male servant lashing Vina with the whip. However, this version retained the female servants feeding the trio around the table and included some additional stuff of the Space Office and Trader trying to tempt Pike, Vina rubbing water on her body, etc. I have the uncut b/w film from this version.
3. Finally, there's the final, "short" version that made it into the first pilot and the two-part "The Menagerie."
Would love to see it!
Bombshell revelations!
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