The bridge shots (large images)

[Psion]

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Where do you see Uhura in that shot? I see a white Yeoman standing at a (rather clever) Yeoman's desk, OUTSIDE the plexiglass displays.

Juan ... I think (did you see the question mark I put next to her name ... that sort of implies my uncertainty) it's Uhura standing in the cubical and possibly washed out by the light. Regardless of who it is, that console sticks out like a sore thumb, and the character is standing within the angle defined by the two plexiglass walls. Look at her feet, then look at the base of the plexiglass wall to her right. The whole arrangement looks awkward, but might make more sense if it's somehow temporary. Maybe it's a damage-control desk. Or a temporary mission-ops console. Take that out, and the bridge suddenly looks a lot more like an updated version of the original.

 

[JuanBolio]

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I agree in part, and Pike and crew are seemingly the ones normally in command during this time. What happens to them, I have no idea - probably not dead, as Pike later regains command, but whatever it is puts Kirk and his fellow cadets/junior officers in charge of the Federation's shiny new heavy cruiser. An unusual situation, to be sure, but it has the potential for a good story.

Where do you see Uhura in that shot? I see a white Yeoman standing at a (rather clever) Yeoman's desk, OUTSIDE the plexiglass displays.

Juan ... I think (did you see the question mark I put next to her name ... that sort of implies my uncertainty) it's Uhura standing in the cubical and possibly washed out by the light.

Oh, oops.

Regardless of who it is, that console sticks out like a sore thumb, and the character is standing within the angle defined by the two plexiglass walls. Look at her feet, then look at the base of the plexiglass wall to her right. The whole arrangement looks awkward, but might make more sense if it's somehow temporary. Maybe it's a damage-control desk. Or a temporary mission-ops console. Take that out, and the bridge suddenly looks a lot more like an updated version of the original.

I'm not at all sure if that plexiglass thingie on the right is to her side, or further behind her, thus enclosing the end of the wall console. I agree that if you take it out it'd look a lot more like the original, and as I've said I'm not terribly wild about the plexiglass-whatevers, but I do think the Yeoman's station is a neat idea. In the series we always had Yeomen running back and forth all over the bridge with reports, etc, and it makes sense for them to have place near the captain's side. It seems like a very functional addition to me.

 

[Jon1701]

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Looks good to me.

The transparent-aluminum sliding things are possibly my only concern, but I'm not going to make a judgement based on one shot. The light reader things (whatever they are) on Uhura's station remind me of those comm things (whatever they were) that were used in WNMHGB. I'm suprised no-one else has pointed it out.

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x03/wherenomanhasgone047.jpg

As others have remarked, these are production stills - I doubt everything will look as bright in the final cut.

 

[JuanBolio]

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The light reader things (whatever they are) on Uhura's station remind me of those comm things (whatever they were) that were used in WNMHGB. I'm suprised no-one else has pointed it out.

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x03/wherenomanhasgone047.jpg

They don't look very similar to me at all. The lamps look more so, if only because of the goose-necks.

And I'm pretty damn sure that's not Uhura. One of the sites displaying these pics made mention of a "random redshirt". I'm pretty sure that's her.

Edit - from MTV.com, in reference to the bridge pic:

- While Lindelof said the “red shirt” crew member we see in the photo isn’t significant herself, fans can make some predictions about other crew members wearing that fateful color.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/10/1...irk-spock-sulu-and-the-uss-enterprise-bridge/

 

[Psion]

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Timo, a possibility you might be overlooking is a slower aging process. Yeah, I doubt Abrams et all actually considered this, but I'd hope that by the 23rd century medical technology has the skills to keep people younger and healthier a lot longer. In reality, Abrams might have deliberately cast actors younger than their roles so that they'd be able to sustain a series of sequels longer ... in addition to playing younger and older versions of their actual characters during this film.

Juan, I really do think this is a shot of the bridge during Kirk's command. Bones is there! Sulu's at the helm. In another shot looking toward the main viewer we see Uhura and Chekov. When Pike was in command, Chekov should have been in high school. There's just no way Kirk and Chekov are contemporaries at Star Fleet Academy; Kirk's got an easy decade on the younger character.

 

[Psion]

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I'm not at all sure if that plexiglass thingie on the right is to her side, or further behind her, thus enclosing the end of the wall console. I agree that if you take it out it'd look a lot more like the original, and as I've said I'm not terribly wild about the plexiglass-whatevers, but I do think the Yeoman's station is a neat idea. In the series we always had Yeomen running back and forth all over the bridge with reports, etc, and it makes sense for them to have place near the captain's side. It seems like a very functional addition to me.

Grudgingly, I'll agree with you about the utility of a yeoman's station on the bridge, but I'd want to give it a little more room than what's shown here. It really feels in the way. We need more shots to debate intelligently, I guess.

Better yet ... blueprints!

 

[JuanBolio]

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Juan, I really do think this is a shot of the bridge during Kirk's command. Bones is there! Sulu's at the helm. In another shot looking toward the main viewer we see Uhura and Chekov. When Pike was in command, Chekov should have been in high school. There's just no way Kirk and Chekov are contemporaries at Star Fleet Academy; Kirk's got an easy decade on the younger character.

I agree, man, I'm just not sure that's the way they're playing it in this movie. I had a hard time from the beginning buying into the idea of Kirk, Spock, and the whole crew together since or at least during the academy days, but that seems to be what they're doing. We have reports of Kirk, Bones, Spock and Uhura at least shipping out from the Academy at the same time. I think that they're going to make this a story about the major TOS characters having history together prior to TOS.

I really don't think they're going to include "flash-forward" moments to the TOS era with the same actors that are playing the characters as junior officers. It doesn't seem workable.

 

[Jon1701]

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And I'm pretty damn sure that's not Uhura. One of the sites displaying these pics made mention of a "random redshirt". I'm pretty sure that's her.

Edit - from MTV.com, in reference to the bridge pic:

- While Lindelof said the “red shirt” crew member we see in the photo isn’t significant herself, fans can make some predictions about other crew members wearing that fateful color.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/10/1...irk-spock-sulu-and-the-uss-enterprise-bridge/

Ah, fair enough.

 

[Classic Fan]

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I like it, well i like The Chair at least.

Seriously, just like what me and Juan have just been saying the Kelvin thread above us, its what we got.

I cant change it, all i can do is accept it, im going to paramount with a plackard saying we want jelly beans, slide and flip switches and grinding computers.

Yeah, it looks kinda cartoony and charicaturish, but hey, big deal.
I wouldve hoped as the uniforms look identical, the interiors would be very faithful aswel, but, theyre not. Its a redesign that wont make people happy but big deal. watch the movie, its only a bonus if 100% of the movie is accurate to each person. I have gripes with differences between comic and movie versions, TV and movie versions of those tv shows, but i dont complain.


Nothings perfect.

Its the exact same dilmema Bryan Singer had in Superman Returns. He said in an interview *this is from memory, so its not perfect*; "We dont want to go too crazy on this thing, we need to draw a line between making our own movie, and re-creating brick for brick someone elses."

 

[I am not Spock]

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I think the photos look awesome. I'm more pumped for this film now. Catch you guys on opening day!

 

[Psion]

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Folks ... is this our first look at the new Enterprise?

 

[Classic Fan]

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Folks ... is this our first look at the new Enterprise?

If it is, looks as if Homer Simpson designed it with bubble domes and pipes.





"IM RUINED"

 

[Psion]

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New theory! That's neither communications nor a yeoman's station. It's a Bridge Security station and those "joysticks" with the red panels are actually phasers in their chargers. The plexiglass walls give the security officer on duty a good view of whoever comes on the bridge from behind a protective screen.

 

[JuanBolio]

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Folks ... is this our first look at the new Enterprise?

I was looking at that earlier myself, but couldn't make out anything distinct. Still can't, so I'm guessing "no"... for now.

 

[cultcross]

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I'm really, really put off by those barcode scanners on her station. They look exactly like the ones we had in the shop I worked in as a teenager. I realise its a dumb thing to get caught up by, but my eye is drawn to them. I'm also not a fan of the bendy lights.

Overall though, the Bridge is growing on me. Taking a step back as it were and looking at the layout, I see a circular bridge, main viewer, captains chair (brilliantly done), railings, consoles round the walls. It's the Enterprise's bridge alright, and done pretty well. I particularly like the brightness of it, the strong lighting. A starship bridge would not be all moodily pitch black a la Generations.

Also, it seems a very realistic precursor to the E-D's bridge in TNG. Somehoe it manages very nicely to look but futuristic to us and backdated comapred to TNG. I think the business of it, the sort of hands-on look is what manages that.

 

[Psion]

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Fair enough ... this is what I'm seeing:

 

[JuanBolio]

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I'm really, really put off by those barcode scanners on her station. They look exactly like the ones we had in the shop I worked in as a teenager. I realise its a dumb thing to get caught up by, but my eye is drawn to them. I'm also not a fan of the bendy lights.

I know how you feel - remember the joystick in Insurrection? I had that same damn stick hooked up to my computer at the time. A Gravis Blackhawk. Good joystick. Good enough for a Sovereign-class starship? Only Riker knows for sure!

As to the barcode thingies, I've had an epiphany about them. Let's assume they're still using paper - not a stretch, after all they used it in The Cage and Pegg seems to be holding a paper sheet in the cast shot. Computers can print out text/graphics/whatever lickety split, but what if you want to put information INTO a computer from a hardcopy fast and efficiently? A modern scanner will give you an image, but won't input data. I think those things may be a step beyond that - a way to scan printed text into a computer so that it records information, not just an image.

Why she needs TWO, though, I have no idea.

 

[gh4chiefs]

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Well, Spock and Kirk have fought before - "This Side of Paradise" springs to mind. We have no context for the image. Perhaps Spock is possessed, or drugged? Or possibly Kirk is? No way to tell yet. Presumably Spock wouldn't lose his Vulcan cool for no reason.

Well it wasn't so much the idea they were fighting as it was the expression on Quinto's face. It was . . . well it was too much . . . Sylar.

 

[Pavonis]

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Well it wasn't so much the idea they were fighting as it was the expression on Quinto's face. It was . . . well it was too much . . . Sylar.

I see. I never got into Heroes, so I don't have that particular problem. I imagine many fans may, though.

 

[Turbo]

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Fair enough ... this is what I'm seeing:

Based on the USS Kelvin pic - with a full, traditional saucer - I don't think this image is the shape the Enterprise will have.