That list notwithstanding, Din Djaran called his late ship by its model as though it was its name. Which I guess is what everyone does with their cars, anyway.
The Book Of Boba Fett
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That list notwithstanding, Din Djaran called his late ship by its model as though it was its name. Which I guess is what everyone does with their cars, anyway.
Guys, they're not renaming it Firespray. It's still the Slave One, they're just not using that name in marketing materials or merchandise for obvious reasons.
In that instance I just assumed it was because Din never bothered to give it a name. Maybe it's tied into the Children of the Watch notion of earning a sigil, maybe he prefers the anonymity of a plain serial number, or maybe he's just really unimaginative.
I'm conflicted about this issue.
I am very sensitive to contemporary implications of the name of the ship--but it was never intended to reference African slavery which is the root of the current objection. Slavery was around for thousands of years and still is in the modern world. We all know it is evil but it has existed in human culture since the beginning of human culture. The name was never meant, as far as I understand, to reference African slave trade, but probably more in the historical context of Roman slaves.
That said, there is an important social context in the world right now that cannot be ignored and should be supported.
The name of Boba Fett's ship was never mentioned on screen and is only known popularly because of merchandise and tie-ins. IMO this is entirely a non-issue that should upset nobody.
I am very sensitive to contemporary implications of the name of the ship--but it was never intended to reference African slavery which is the root of the current objection. Slavery was around for thousands of years and still is in the modern world. We all know it is evil but it has existed in human culture since the beginning of human culture. The name was never meant, as far as I understand, to reference African slave trade, but probably more in the historical context of Roman slaves.
That said, there is an important social context in the world right now that cannot be ignored and should be supported.
The name of Boba Fett's ship was never mentioned on screen and is only known popularly because of merchandise and tie-ins. IMO this is entirely a non-issue that should upset nobody.
I've just never understood the context of the name, the Fetts aren't slaves, as far as we know they never have been slaves, and I don't believe they are slave traders. It just feels really random, like whover came up with the name in the real world just tossed out a random word that people have negative feelings about just because Fett was a bad guy, without any thought to why the character would call it that.
I think the ship was called Slave One is a Clone Wars episode once. Growing up we just called it Boba Fett’s ship so not calling it Slave One doesn’t bother me. It’s a lame name anyways.
It was mentioned in a single episode of Clone Wars.
True.
If it was a non-issue, then it begs the question why Disney/Lucasfilm did not leave the matter alone. I'm black and grew up with Star Wars from the series' beginning, and as marketing for TESB was saturating the the four corners of the world, I aware of Slave I being the well-marketed name of Fett's ship. Not once did I--or any black people I knew who were also aware of the name--think it was referencing the enslavement of our people to any degree or with any intent...because it was not.
In that period, the name was everywhere--from a description on the "Starcrafts" listing of the ship as part of Topps' second TESB trading card set, the Kenner die-cast ship and action figure vehicle, to the MPC model kit, and referred by name in Marvel's adaptation of the film.
It was not a matter of "well, people were not as sensitive back then," or "there's more awareness now" as either used by anyone as some sort of explanation would be woefully ignorant of history. Outcry and content changes have occurred for decades when there was a genuine cause for complaints / changes (e.g., entire shorts from the Our Gang / Little Rascals TV syndication package were edited or never broadcast due to racially offensive content).
This is not the case with Slave I. This is the typical, highly questionable corporate attempt to appear socially aware--not out of genuine understanding, but for desperation and optics (and any accolades they might receive in their entertainment / political echo chamber), as this is the same Disney/Lucasfilm that was widely, accurately and deservedly criticized for creating--in 2015--a modern day minstrel out of the sequel trilogy's one black male lead--Finn the janitor/Stormtrooper/yelling bumbler, and how he was increasingly marginalized from one film to the next, while the company gladly reduced actor John Boyega's image in the marketing materials for certain foreign territories known to despise black people (both subjects Boyega himself complained about in GQ and other publications).
....but Fett's ship was the hill Disney/Lucasfilm wanted to die on?
Yeah, sure.
Believing everyone simply forgot the Finn/Boyega issue, the company (like so many) believe they can speak for / represent the feelings & perceptions of black people, as if this particular subject had been bothering black people for decades. No one is convinced of Disney/Lucasfilm's latest bid at appearing virtuous and caring ever-so-much for "us po' black folk".
Fuck them.
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Did Fin really have a reduced role in The Last Jedi? I feel like all three of the main cast had equal screen-time. Poe was marginalised in TFA, it's just how it happens. Though to be fair, he was never meant to be a lead character.
TROS though I agree Fin was marginalised there. But it had a million characters and a million locations to visit, so it was to be expected. When we learned of all the new characters in the lead up to the film I knew it would dilute any meaningful screentime, and so it proved. I think it's less to do with Fin being black though and more to do with you know, the writing.
TROS though I agree Fin was marginalised there. But it had a million characters and a million locations to visit, so it was to be expected. When we learned of all the new characters in the lead up to the film I knew it would dilute any meaningful screentime, and so it proved. I think it's less to do with Fin being black though and more to do with you know, the writing.
A distinction without a difference is no difference. The use of Firespray in War of the Bounty Hunters promo would indicate that it extends beyond that to tie ins as well.
The name Slave 1 will never be seen again. Since it barely was mentioned on the show and never in the Movies, Disney can just continue not mentioning it and pretend nothing changed.
It's still used on the official website.
https://www.starwars.com/databank/boba-fetts-starship
The name Firespray is only mentioned in the press release for those variant covers, which is covered under marketing as Reverend said.
Finn--after his experience as a man who defected from the First Order, and fought (no matter the outcome) Ren should have been the subject of a central plot regarding how his identity was tied to "breaking his bonds" and that meaning more to the plot. TFA made a point of having Ren briefly study him (having doubts about being a Stormtrooper) and how enraged he is in his screaming "traitor" at this one man. Instead, he's sent with Rose to some asinine casino where the writers tried to make clumsy statements and he--Finn--was not explored for who he is and had been in the FO government.
This video almost perfectly lays out how Finn should have been handled:
Of the ST's principals, he--as Boyega pointed out--had less development from what was set in TFA, and with each film, his life was ignored more and more, and yes, the space janitor/bumbler was the only black male lead in the Sequel Trilogy. This has precedents in film and TV history, and Boyega was well aware of that mistreatment.
I'm not entirely sure there's much else to explore about his past. He was a janitor on Starkiller Base. Ok?
Whenever I see the story "should have" been this, I always raise an eyebrow. The writers and directors simply wanted to tell a different story. It's not up to YouTubers to say what a story "should" have been about. You either like the story or you don't. Personally, I enjoyed his arc with Rose a ton in The Last Jedi, and I feel like his development over the course of three films has probably been the most noticeable of the three main good guy leads.
He didn't have a life. That was the point. He went from an ignorant janitor to a (twice) deserter, to someone who learns about the realities of a galaxy at war, and eventually confronting his former oppressors and offering his life up for the cause.
Poe was almost entirely sidelined in TROS, but I don't hear Oscar Isaac complaining. Han barely had anything to do in Return of the Jedi but you never hear that mentioned. And the OT had a tiny fraction of the characters the ST does.
"he was the only black male lead", considering there are three male leads in the ST, how many were you expecting?
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I seem to recall hearing a rumor that both Finn and Poe were originally supposed to be one-shot characters for TFA with very minimal roles in later movies. It mostly due to positive fan reaction to them when TFA premiered that led to rewrites in TLJ go give them larger roles.
If true, it would explain why both of them seem to be sandwiched into TLJ and why their storylines don't really seem to contribute anything meaningful into the movie's narrative.
If true, it would explain why both of them seem to be sandwiched into TLJ and why their storylines don't really seem to contribute anything meaningful into the movie's narrative.
Don't believe it andI don't remember hearing that rumor either. Poe I might believe but not Finn with the way they promoted him in the trailers and on the poster. I believe Poe was originally supposed to have not made it in the crash. As for the sandwiched into TLJ I don't really buy that either, it just sounds more like an excuse for how poorly their storyline was handled.
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I feel like I might have misinterpreted something along the way, but I could've sworn I read somewhere before the release of The Force Awakens that Rey, Finn, and Poe were intended as the new Big Three. As a result, I was quite surprised how small Poe's role ended up being.
I know Poe was slated to die in the crash. His return on Takodonna is nearly inexplicable, and lampshaded. In my opinion, Poe should have stayed dead and Finn should have been the combative one, eager to fight back against the people who forced him to be a soldier.
What a waste of a great character for him to have stayed dead half an hour into TFA.
Agreed. Poe staying dead works very well from a story perspective.
Benefitted one character arc at the expense of another? I'd rather keep them both. I really liked Poe's transformation from hothead > leader in TLJ, especially helped along by Leia.