The Big E bridge: What changes WOULD you like?

[Vger23]

I'm going out on a limb here, but I kinda' liked the exteriour of the Disco-prise - while I think it's inferiour to the original (or the refit. or the JJprise), I think it's still one of the better iterations of the Jeffrey's design.

But for the interiour my expectations are set between "hate" and "grudgingly tolerate" them. That's because I really hate the interiour sets of Discovery so far - they're IMO the worst studio sets any Trek show ever had, and I'm including the original from the 60s in here! (The quality of the sets doesn't directly correlate with the quality of the show though - ENT had the best sets, TNG the weakest bridge set - but damn, did DIS drop the ball here!) They are definitely going to reuse the corridor sets and crew quarter sets for the Enterprise (hopefully with a changed color-scheme). But therefore they need to adjust the bridge design to fit with the general aesthetic of the other sets. Not just the bridge window, but brutalistic design and dark grey and blue colors included. Did I already mention I hate that design?

It's interesting. I think the production design on DSC is the best since the TOS films. These sets are at least interesting. The TNG era stuff was excruciatingly dull, and the JJ designs never appealed to me in the slightest.

I have been re-evaluating my opinions and perhaps I am being too harsh on DSC due to the visual changes, I am a big TOS fan and I guess seeing it all very different is very culture shock to me, I guess because on ENT and TNG its a hundred years difference either way and DSC is closer to TOS.

I guess I need to be more positive about this show, and stop being annoyed that this is a very different Star Trek show

I'm a huge TOS fan. I love all Star Trek to some degree, but TOS is miles above everything else in my book.

I've been to the Star Trek Set Tours in NY 3 times now (including Shatner weekend a couple weekends ago), and feel like I'm in a dream every single time. Those sets were jus so amazing for their time.

That said, I love DSC, love the designs, and have absolutely zero expectations for what the inside or outside of the Enterprise will look like in S2. It's not something that even remotely factors in to my level of enjoyment. It's a different show made in a different era. I could give a shit whether it looks like TOS or not

 

[DaveyNY]

Like this?

You might wanna take a second gander at that pic...
That's not a Turbolift door, it's the background wall, which is rectangular and plain.
(with crosshatch fencing in front of it)
The 'Corridor Wall Bracing' on the Hanger-bay Observation Deck is what is angular.

Watch this video from the 1:44 point ...

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just saying

 

[F. King Daniel]

They changed the one thing that I did not want them to change, so seeing changes on the Enterprise bridge and corridors et all are actually the final nail in the coffin and officially have no interest what will be happening in season 2.

Given a choice about being angry at every thing they will screw up and change and making it seem even harder to fit in with TOS, I feel like I won't be watching. They need to do something to restore my faith that this is Trek.

Why not take the TOS sets and give them a modern makeover. A proper view screen, not the God Damn window. Doors like the ones from TOS, not those ribbed angled ones that DSC has. Uniforms more like the Cage era uniforms, not changing them to fit in with those awful DSC uniforms. Do the producers not care about TOS?

Just treat it like a reboot. That way, there are no screwups, it's just new versions of Pike, the Enterprise et al and no silliness trying to reconcile it with "The Cage"

 

[WarpFactorZ]

You might wanna take a second gander at that pic...
That's not a Turbolift door, it's the background wall, which is rectangular and plain.
(with crosshatch fencing in front of it)

just saying

I realize that. I'm pointing out that the angled doorways -- whether or not they're actual doors -- go back to TOS.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I realize that. I'm pointing out that the angled doorways -- whether or not they're actual doors -- go back to TOS.

way back

 

[lawman]

Okay, great. So let them give us trapezoidal corridor archways (and rectangular sliding doors) on the Enterprise, but not hexagonal ones like on the Discovery.

 

[Tuskin38]

but not hexagonal ones like on the Discovery.

Too late.

 

[lawman]

I know, I know. It's frustrating. It's not as if anyone can make a non-eye-rolling argument that hexagonal door frames are somehow more modern or futuristic or cool or take advantage of better production values or special effects or, well, anything. It's purely arbitrary change for change's sake.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I know, I know. It's frustrating. It's not as if anyone can make a non-eye-rolling argument that hexagonal door frames are somehow more modern or futuristic or cool or take advantage of better production values or special effects or, well, anything. It's purely arbitrary change for change's sake.

Well, two people can actually walk side by side or in opposite directions at the same time through the DSC door frames, so that's a plus from a filming standpoint, and it also helps from a traffic flow standpoint in-universe.

But did they actually show what the new DSC Enterprise door frames and corridors will look like somewhere? If so, can someone post a link, because I missed it.

 

[Tuskin38]

But did they actually show what the new DSC Enterprise door frames and corridors will look like somewhere? If so, can someone post a link, because I missed it.

The start of production trailer showed the doorway to someone’s crew quarters, it was just a normal DSC doorway.

 

[Lance]

Just the TOS bridge set with the 'Cage' color scheme.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/birdofthegalaxy/15462672550

Darker lighting, battleship grey walls, desaturated color, maybe some updated graphics but nothing severe. It honestly doesn't need "updating", in fact without the bright color scheme of the TOS series the set still looks surpringly modern, and if they're *serious* about this being a prequel then... just do this.

 

[Tuskin38]

Just the TOS bridge set with the 'Cage' color scheme.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/birdofthegalaxy/15462672550

Darker lighting, battleship grey walls, desaturated color, maybe some updated graphics but nothing severe. It honestly doesn't need "updating", in fact without the bright color scheme of the TOS series the set still looks surpringly modern, and if they're *serious* about this being a prequel then... just do this.

Everything looks so flat

 

[Jadeb]

The start of production trailer showed the doorway to someone’s crew quarters, it was just a normal DSC doorway.

I'm glad they included the red, and I can live with the shape of the door. But I hope they don't make the Enterprise grim and forbidding like much of Discovery. The red in that pic is right but the tone is all wrong.

Fingers crossed it's just a result of it being a candid snap and not representative of the overall vibe.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

The start of production trailer showed the doorway to someone’s crew quarters, it was just a normal DSC doorway.

Thanks!

Probably just a cost and construction time saving measure for the production, mostly.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm glad they included the red, and I can live with the shape of the door. But I hope they don't make the Enterprise grim and forbidding like much of Discovery. The red in that pic is right but the tone is all wrong.

Fingers crossed it's just a result of it being a candid snap and not representative of the overall vibe.

Well, remember, the Cage bridge was very grey and dull, so this could be like a half way between the two.

 

[Jadeb]

Well, remember, the Cage bridge was very grey and dull, so this could be like a half way between the two.

Yeah, and sticking with the Cage aesthetic would be more in line with Discovery's vibe. But the use of red and the TOS-style uniforms make me think they're aiming more TOS. If it ends up dreary, I'll tell myself it's a continuity bridge.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Re: Railing - if it's there, I'd like it to make ergonomic sense. The TOS bridge railing served no real purpose other than to have something for Kirk to occasionally lean against. It was far too low for anyone on the upper deck to use except to trip and fall over when the ship was hit... It really had no usefulness as a safety measure.

This was fixed for the TOS movies, and made taller so people on the higher level could actually grab it if need be.

As for the DSC Enterprise bridge set, if we do see the bridge it will likely be a newbuild. The season 2 trailer shows the Shenzhou bridge set has been repurposed as some sort of two-level set, possibly a lab or other command centre. On the other hand, a new set can be seen later as other ship bridges as well, as the Shenzhou bridge was later seen as the bridge of the USS Gagarin and of course as her own evil twin; so hopefully they'll put enough forethought into its subsequent use after this opening encounter with the Enterprise is done.

Mark

 

[F. King Daniel]

A proper two-level Enterprise bridge would be awesome. That's something I've wanted to see ever since seeing The Black Hole's cavernous control centre.