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The best documentary ever made about Oswald/JFK

eh who cares. Seriously. Even if you believe it was a conspiracy, cover up, whatever why not focus on shit being done by the government today which people need to hear about.
 
eh who cares. Seriously. Even if you believe it was a conspiracy, cover up, whatever why not focus on shit being done by the government today which people need to hear about.

Because after five years of CONSTANT, NEVERENDING, headlines about Obama, I'd rather spend some time hearing about a 50 year old story about Kennedy.
 
eh who cares. Seriously. Even if you believe it was a conspiracy, cover up, whatever why not focus on shit being done by the government today which people need to hear about.

Because after five years of CONSTANT, NEVERENDING, headlines about Obama, I'd rather spend some time hearing about a 50 year old story about Kennedy.


The reason why and the reason you should care, is this I went and saw a extra long version of Stone's JFK yesterday. As flawed as it is, one thing struck me during Jim Garrison's court speech he connected the dots on the need for the citizens of this nation to speak truth to power and if we shrug off this responsibility, then the rights of the people to own their own destiny will continue to diminish. As it surely has in the past half century, education is where all this begin.

Much unanswered still remains for that incident. Why was Oswald tax return classified, why did JFK brain disappear, why were the autopsy notes destroyed or pictures/video of the assassination not shown to the public of that period.

Many questions, all these fall into the blank justification of National Security, things do not occur in a vacuum they are build a little at a time, as little and a little more. All of this leads to where we are now. If you are unsatisfied with are current political structure and state, it begins here. You need to understand how it begins to see what and how we have become what we are now.

That is why it is important.
 
eh who cares. Seriously. Even if you believe it was a conspiracy, cover up, whatever why not focus on shit being done by the government today which people need to hear about.

Because after five years of CONSTANT, NEVERENDING, headlines about Obama, I'd rather spend some time hearing about a 50 year old story about Kennedy.


The reason why and the reason you should care, is this I went and saw a extra long version of Stone's JFK yesterday. As flawed as it is, one thing struck me during Jim Garrison's court speech he connected the dots on the need for the citizens of this nation to speak truth to power and if we shrug off this responsibility, then the rights of the people to own their own destiny will continue to diminish. As it surely has in the past half century, education is where all this begin.

Much unanswered still remains for that incident. Why was Oswald tax return classified, why did JFK brain disappear, why were the autopsy notes destroyed or pictures/video of the assassination not shown to the public of that period.

Many questions, all these fall into the blank justification of National Security, things do not occur in a vacuum they are build a little at a time, as little and a little more. All of this leads to where we are now. If you are unsatisfied with are current political structure and state, it begins here. You need to understand how it begins to see what and how we have become what we are now.

That is why it is important.

I'll assume your post was directed at Teacake in spite of the fact that you also quoted me. Personally, I agree with you.
 
I actually think the friendly fire theory is the most compelling that fits the weirdness. Oswald opens fire. Hinkley spins around and accident.y opens fire (either by tripping and/or because he was inexperienced and put into a SS slot he wasn't prepared for bc the others were hungover). Hitting Kennedy from ground level.

The gunpowder on the street smell that multiple people reported, the odd way the film seems to show a ground level shot, LBJs insistence and paranoia about not having inexperienced service agents so close behind him and comment he made to a biographer. It all fits, even the odd way that the Oswald evidence seems to clearly point to him being the shooter, and yet coexist with all kinds of odd evidence.
 
Fellow JFK buffs, I highly, highly recommend this documentary that screened here a couple of weeks ago. It was called "The Lost Bullet : http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/11/11/3885332.htm

Shuts the lid on the whole thing as far as I'm concerned. Really good stuff.

At the other extreme of the spectrum, I must get my hands on a Blu Ray of Stone's JFK - surely its had the deluxe treatment by now. That film was/is brilliant, got me reading hundreds of books about JFK, and as a kid, scared the **** out of me :lol:
 
eh who cares. Seriously. Even if you believe it was a conspiracy, cover up, whatever why not focus on shit being done by the government today which people need to hear about.

Yes there are always issues with current events and the government, yet it's the 50th anniversary of a moment which changed both the character of government and thinking of the populace in the United States for decades after. Well worth taking a look at from time to time.

The Frontline documentary is comprehensive, even moreso than the recent Nova and National Geographic specials which focus on a fairly narrow part of the assassination. It's pretty clear there's a 100% chance Oswald was the lone shooter, with a slightly lesser possibility that there may have been someone or something behind him, but most likely was personally motivated.

The reason why and the reason you should care, is this I went and saw a extra long version of Stone's JFK yesterday. As flawed as it is, one thing struck me during Jim Garrison's court speech ..

Flawed? Garrison was paranoid and delusional. He was discredited since the late 60s until Stone dragged out his ridiculous 1988 book about the assassination to base his fictional movie on. Let's not make a hero out of the man who ruined so many lives in his quest for fame and power.

RAMA
 
Stone's JFK is an alright film. as something that is supposted to resemble historical events, no way. not even close. i remember a high school history teacher once showed the film in class. he said the film was about as close as we would ever get to the truth. i just remember thinking how crazy that was. another history teacher called him out on it.
 
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