The beginning of the end?

[F. King Daniel]

The next New Frontier is likely to be the last. The next Vanguard is definitely the last. The Romulan War comes to a close in the next Enterprise novel.

I'm seeing a lot of endings, and not a lot of beginnings. Is this....

The end of Treklit?? [/hyperbole]

 

[Thestral]

Sounds to me like the line maybe will be looking for a new series... like Aventine!

 

[Hartzilla2007]

The next New Frontier is likely to be the last.

What?

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

All Good Things...

 

[Therin of Andor]

The next New Frontier is likely to be the last.

PAD is not yet contracted for a new NF novel. Yet.

The end of Treklit??

If Pocket/Gallery ever stops publishing ST you can be sure some other publisher will try for the rights.

 

[F. King Daniel]

True. But that would mean the end of the current post-series storylines.

I'm kinda hoping/wishfully thinking that they're "making room" for nuTrek novels in the schedule. We've got comics and a game lined up to tie in with STXII. It would be very nice to have some (grown up) novels too.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm no expert on this matter, but here's my take on things:

-Maybe Peter David wants to end New Frontier?
-Isn't Vanguard telling a spceific story, which is reaching its inevitable end?
-Just because the Romulan War is ending doesn't rule out more Enterprise storylines set post finale.

 

[Defcon]

-Maybe Peter David wants to end New Frontier?

He doesn't, and frankly all that was said by PAD was that, as Therin mentioned above, he wasn't contracted yet for another novel, since S&S wants to wait for the sales numbers first. So pretty much standard operating procedure for most Star Trek books, it's just a new development for Peter David who often was contracted for multiple titles at once.

-Isn't Vanguard telling a spceific story, which is reaching its inevitable end?

Yup.

-Just because the Romulan War is ending doesn't rule out more Enterprise storylines set post finale.

Agreed.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

-Just because the Romulan War is ending doesn't rule out more Enterprise storylines set post finale.

Yeah, I mean there just getting into the Federation founding era.

 

[Fer]

TrekLit has proven to be a rich tapestry. Pocket stopped printing SCE, Gorkon and Stargazer novels, but then we got DTI, Titan, and Vanguard. (Okay, there may have been some overlap there, but you get what I mean.)

Don't worry if a few doors are closing; there are always more doors to open.

 

[Scout101]

Yeah, no harm in taking a few series out of the rotation, there's tons more that haven't had much exposure lately that could get a few more slots...

 

[BrotherBenny]

-Just because the Romulan War is ending doesn't rule out more Enterprise storylines set post finale.

Except for the fact that the NX-01 has to be decommissioned by the end of the Earth-Romulan War so as not to conflict with canon, specifically "Trials and Tribble-ations" where it is mentioned that there have been six Federation starships called Enterprise (NCC-1701 to NCC-1701-E).

Unless the post-war ENT novels are planning to split the crew up and have storylines that bring them together or follow their individual career paths, I don't see the line going anywhere. The TV series probably would have ended with the founding ceremony itself, or with the opening of the war and allowing a couple of movies to tell the story of the war.

 

[Fer]

-Just because the Romulan War is ending doesn't rule out more Enterprise storylines set post finale.

Except for the fact that the NX-01 has to be decommissioned by the end of the Earth-Romulan War so as not to conflict with canon, specifically "Trials and Tribble-ations" where it is mentioned that there have been six Federation starships called Enterprise (NCC-1701 to NCC-1701-E).

Unless the post-war ENT novels are planning to split the crew up and have storylines that bring them together or follow their individual career paths, I don't see the line going anywhere. The TV series probably would have ended with the founding ceremony itself, or with the opening of the war and allowing a couple of movies to tell the story of the war.

Well, there's a little wiggle room. The dialogue went something like this:

Dulmur: "Which Enterprise? There have been five."

Lucsly: "Six."

The Enterprise-E was never actually mentioned by name. Now of course this was meant to be a reference to the upcoming debut of the E-E in First Contact, but in hindsight it could just as easily have been Lucsly being nit-picky and pointing out to Dulmur that Sisko could have been referring to Archer's Enterprise (especially considering their line of work).

Now Sisko does go on to call Kirk's "The first Enterprise," but if Dulmur hadn't thought to take the NX-01 into account it's easy to see how Sisko wouldn't have either. The NCC-1701 is the first one built and launched by the Federation, thus making it "the first," while the NX-01 may have hung around for a few years after the Federation was born, but was always looked back on as an Earth ship and not a Federation ship.

Yeah, it's stretching things a bit, but no worse so than saying history as we were shown it in a holodeck program wasn't entirely accurate.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ And even then, it's not exactly a given that every ship in the United Earth fleet will automatically become part of the Federation Starfleet. (Federation member worlds don't have their indigenous military forces simply vanish, after all. Most of them are absorbed into the Fed Starfleet, but not ALL.) This may be a stretch, but perhaps the NX-01 is one of the ships that won't.

 

[Kemaiku]

^ And even then, it's not exactly a given that every ship in the United Earth fleet will automatically become part of the Federation Starfleet. (Federation member worlds don't have their indigenous military forces simply vanish, after all. Most of them are absorbed into the Fed Starfleet, but not ALL.) This may be a stretch, but perhaps the NX-01 is one of the ships that won't.

Its shaping up that way, they seem to be showing the inadequacey of the NX class to deal with problems for much longer and designing new series of starships.

The Federation is probably going to be founded in the books with brand new classes, the old Daedalus and the remaining NX's (which is pretty much the Enterprise now) around but ceremonially.

 

[starri]

If Pocket/Gallery ever stops publishing ST you can be sure some other publisher will try for the rights.

Why would S&S let it go? They have the same parent company as the televised Trek.

 

[toughlittleship]

Televised Trek is dead.

 

[starri]

But CBS Corp still owns the rights to the shows, even if we never see another series.

 

[Scout101]

Its shaping up that way, they seem to be showing the inadequacey of the NX class to deal with problems for much longer and designing new series of starships.

The Federation is probably going to be founded in the books with brand new classes, the old Daedalus and the remaining NX's (which is pretty much the Enterprise now) around but ceremonially.

That's been about the worst retcon I've noticed recently. Trying to shoehorn in why the ENT tech looks newer and fancier than the TOS stuff (and the Daedelus class, etc). Didn't even make a ton of sense as written, as unless they threw the computer overboard completely, there's really no reason you would have to go to push-buttons and levers to control things, and couldn't just harden/isolate the more advanced controls they showed. If your phone network is hacked, you have problems with the network; how does going to rotary phones help?

That part of the Romulan War book annoyed me to no end. Could have just said the new class of ships was faster/easier to build, cheaper, whatever, but trying to retcon the ENT images shown with 1960s production values was silly.

At least when they did it with the Klingon foreheads, they at least came up with a (half-baked) reason for it. I'd have prefered that they left stuff like that alone, and just decided that Klingons ALWAYS had ridges, TOS was just done on a shoestring budget. The remastered TOS episodes took more of that approach, changing things where they could to add better special effects. They didn't mean for EVERY planet and console to look the same, that's just all they had.

Do we have to retcon why people don't have badges on the uniform sometimes, or the hair is parted wrong, or can we just laugh about how they were so poor that they had to splice the film in backwards to make it look like they had more footage than they did?

 

[JD]

I doubt very, very much that Treklit is ending. And I think it's worth taking into account that we have new people in charge, so perhaps they could be making room for more of their own stuff like DTI. Although Vanguard ending was the authors' choice, not the editors.