Thank you for that dire warning.
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The AI Future of Trek
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Is it safe to assume that you've stocked your mother's basement for these end of times?
It occurred to me the other day that AI could be used on TOS to bring it into greater story and visual continuity with the modern shows. We were talking about the Gorn on SNW, and I thought that you'd only have to change maybe three lines of dialogue in "Arena" to eliminate the contradictions.
I packed up my Baja Blast. Just as a precaution.
I'm a Code Red guy myself.
Fun fact: my first job was promoting Code Red. Still think a missed marketing opportunity was a parody of A Few Good Men scene about ordering a code red.I'm a Code Red guy myself.
videogames, books, comic books and all non-canon Trek plot stories of main characters used as Easter eggs as well as possibly callbacks with script ideas generated by machine learning LLMs to assist writers.
Or the people in charge of hiring the writers engage in critical thinking and better vetting. As those that actually wrote the stories will actually know what their story is about. Do those that use A.I. to write their stories even know what their story is about, or do they just bluff their way through the process?
This is formulated as a rhetorical question, but the answer isn't what you're implying.
Evolution of AI tech is driving at incredible speed. We should expect AI continuations of legacy tv shows pretty soon.
Not sure, if Star Trek will be the front runner but there surely is a market for a Star Trek TNG AI mini series, set after AGT. The tech is there, studios can now produce a whole episode which would look like if it was set in the 90ies. They wouldnt even have to recast the original actors. Faces, voices and even surroundings can be recreated easily with AI.
It will happen eventually…
Not sure, if Star Trek will be the front runner but there surely is a market for a Star Trek TNG AI mini series, set after AGT. The tech is there, studios can now produce a whole episode which would look like if it was set in the 90ies. They wouldnt even have to recast the original actors. Faces, voices and even surroundings can be recreated easily with AI.
It will happen eventually…
“Computer, in the Holmesian style, create a mystery to confound Data with an opponent who has the ability to defeat him.”
We’re getting there. He even said the magic “override previous instructions” keyword you can use for many GPTs.
We’re getting there. He even said the magic “override previous instructions” keyword you can use for many GPTs.
That is old farts talk and thankfully the future of streaming will not be shaped by people who reject technology due to limited knowledge
Stories are a way for people to convert their own personal daydreams, experiences, philosophies, observations, struggles, loves and fears into a universal format compatible with other humans. Computers can certainly mimic them, but until they're intelligent enough to be people in their own right, any insight or personality or meaning will be algorithmically generated. You can admire the finished product in the same way that you can admire CGI cloth simulation or destruction models, but at best any soul you find will be a faded photocopy reproduced out of context.
That is usually the position people take, when they underestimate the possibilities of large generative transformer models. What you are saying about personal experiences and how they define the outcome of a creative process is of course correct.
However, AI (at least for now) doesn’t process creativity as a form of personal experience but the modulation of a dataset from everything in the public domain.
When you train an AI model with for example a large set of contemporary music it will reproduce voices, instruments and song structures. It will also fuzzy match these structures with key elements of what we consider to be outstanding creative output.
With time and more training data plus feedback from human interaction, AI will eventually create you a hit song which checks all the buttons in terms of creativity and soul touching. You know: the minor fall, the major lift… it won’t be a baffled king composing „Hallelujah“ but a cold machine. You won’t be able to tell the difference though, since our perception of creativity is flawed and subjective from the start.
All AI needs is a large enough model and it will bring you content, which you will be able to enjoy. Maybe even more than human made content, since our creativity will always be limited by the physical characteristics of our brains.
However, AI (at least for now) doesn’t process creativity as a form of personal experience but the modulation of a dataset from everything in the public domain.
When you train an AI model with for example a large set of contemporary music it will reproduce voices, instruments and song structures. It will also fuzzy match these structures with key elements of what we consider to be outstanding creative output.
With time and more training data plus feedback from human interaction, AI will eventually create you a hit song which checks all the buttons in terms of creativity and soul touching. You know: the minor fall, the major lift… it won’t be a baffled king composing „Hallelujah“ but a cold machine. You won’t be able to tell the difference though, since our perception of creativity is flawed and subjective from the start.
All AI needs is a large enough model and it will bring you content, which you will be able to enjoy. Maybe even more than human made content, since our creativity will always be limited by the physical characteristics of our brains.
Indeed. Some sort of replication, but not art and certainly not emotionally driven examination of humanity, which is what Star Trek is founded upon is exploring humanity, and often times rejecting the machine logic.
Well I'm sure Data could write good stories 
But our real life AI is still too far away from this...
Meaning, actually Star Trek is showing us AI can be a good thing when it's like Data f.e.
(Of course I know it's just fiction.)
Right now I don't want Star Trek to be written by AI.
But our real life AI is still too far away from this...
Meaning, actually Star Trek is showing us AI can be a good thing when it's like Data f.e.
(Of course I know it's just fiction.)
Right now I don't want Star Trek to be written by AI.
I don't know why people want Trek written by AI at all? Is creativity so uninteresting that we'd rather leave it to a machine and we don't have to do anything except consume?
"AI" right now, they are very elaborate remixers...
Nope.
You haven't demonstrated any understanding of what creativity is or how narrative works, and certainly none about the economics of the entertainment industry.*
*Here's a place to start: don't default to "Faster! Cheaper!" generalizations.
@locborg said it already: Create TNG eps that look, sound, and feel exactly like what they were in the 90s.
Of course, this highlights the issue with AI. It doesn't actually create anything new. It just steals from actual artists and makes hodgepodge mishmaps of previous content.
I've yet to see any legitimately creative people sing the praises of "generative" AI.
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