You just refuse to get it. Instead you just regurgitate the same thing over and over again.
The age of the antihero
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Yeah, you didn't miss the point at all...
Lorca is scripted as saying he has discretion to invite Burnham to be part of Discovery's crew. But really that is just proving my point. Burnham has gotten away with her court-martial sentence because the anti-hero needs her freedom to be the lead. It's bad writing.
Indeed the writers are way protective of the character, it is very predictable.
As you do and not very convincingly. But hey, it's just your opinion.
How is it bad writing?
It was so predictable and unrealistic.
What am I not getting? That Burnham committed a crime and was convicted? Yeah, I get that. That the actions that led to her conviction are not ones that people should admire? Yeah I get that. Is there something else I should be getting?
Don't really get the "it's just your opinion" jab. What's that about?
Now, do you understand the concept of redemption? Or that working for redemption is an admirable quality? Or that doing the right things for the right reasons, even if you are a convicted criminal is admirable?
I'd say not. Lorca doesn't have the discretion to pardon Burnham. Once her stint on DISCO is over, Burnham expects to wind back up in a cell, as others have said. I stand by what I said:
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There's plenty of that on the show, but it's not necessary to mischaracterize what's happening to find it. Burnham isn't free, even just to the degree that the other officers serving on DISCO are.
Which part? The taking a high trained prisoner and using their skills to further your scientific, strategic and personal ambitions or something else? Because I'm pretty sure that happens in real life.
... so she could do something she thought would prevent a War with the Klingons. She wanted to avoid something that happened to her parents from happening to countless other Federation citizens. It didn't work, obviously. Her intentions were good, though.
EDIT: Sorry, you were talking about Lorca towards the end. I thought you were talking about Michael.
Come on. Serving a life sentence on a penal colony or being a valued member of Discovery, going on every away mission and having all the perks of regular crew is no punishment at all. Why? Because the writers wanted their lead to have the freedom to do that. That is terrible writing.
Within the next ten years all Federation penal colonies will be wellness centers where the inmates are quietly mind-wiped rather than forced to break rocks, anyway.
That's not how the chain of command works.
It's kind of why Lorca brought her aboard. Why conscript her and then confine her to quarters? She cant leave the ship at the first port of call and book passage home to Vulcan. She can't put in for a transfer to a different ship. She can't resign and slip quietly back to civilian life. It may be a gilded cage, but it's still a cage.
Burnham was on a pretty tight leash when she was first on the DISCO. She's proven herself to be trustworthy. She might have had opportunities to escape, but if she did she passed them up. But, again, at the end of the day, which is figurative speech for whenever her service on the DISCO is over, where does she think she's going? It's been said quite a few times already. This isn't probation or parole. It's entirely temporary.
"Dagger Of The Mind" (TOS):
KIRK: I would like to have met Doctor Adams. Have you ever been to a penal colony since they started following his theories?
MCCOY: A cage is a cage, Jim.
KIRK: You're behind the times, Bones. They're more like resort colonies now. [...] Bones, are you aware that in the last twenty years Doctor Adams has done more to revolutionize, to humanize prisons and the treatment of prisoners than all the rest of humanity had done in forty centuries? I've been to those penal colonies since they've begun following his methods, and they're not cages anymore. They're clean, decent hospitals for sick minds.
-MMoM
KIRK: I would like to have met Doctor Adams. Have you ever been to a penal colony since they started following his theories?
MCCOY: A cage is a cage, Jim.
KIRK: You're behind the times, Bones. They're more like resort colonies now. [...] Bones, are you aware that in the last twenty years Doctor Adams has done more to revolutionize, to humanize prisons and the treatment of prisoners than all the rest of humanity had done in forty centuries? I've been to those penal colonies since they've begun following his methods, and they're not cages anymore. They're clean, decent hospitals for sick minds.
-MMoM
^ Yes, Burnham can look forward to possibly getting cared for by Dr. Adams.
So, if you were aware that you had one chance of avoiding a war, one chance to avoid the fate of your parents being the same fate of countless other Federation citizens... Wouldn't that chain of command have mattered absolutely nothing to you ? What good there is in Military Etiquette if there's no one alive to follow it after the Klingons killed everyone ?
Well I could beg to differ about Burnham's sufferance once she was taken under Lorca's wing. She got the plum job working out what made Ripper tick almost straight away and has had these fabulous away missions and every opportunity possible to do that redemption thing from the get go. Bet she's thanking her lucky stars she wasn't one of those other criminals that got sent on. Shame on them for not being so special.
