The 100 - Season 3
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"Commander" is the title for the super-leader, derived from the inventor's rank on her suit when she landed. The implication is that it is indeed passed on from Commander to Commander, with there always having been one since she landed. (Which doesn't mesh at all with the rest of the story until this apparent ret-con.)
The chip only works with the black blood kids.
Black blood has been around for a while.
Half a season?
1. Less irradiated/less mutated humans are more compatible with Alie2 technology and their blood can be blackened by secondary sources.
2. Intense genetic modification was done to Becca to make her compatible with Alie2 tech, so only her descendants will have black blood and be able to use the Alie2 chip.
3. Is Alie2 really doing anything? Either it's trying to make a healthy human civilization which is more important than a tech savvy civilization, or the chip is broken/can't help/exert subconscious guidance of human culture like it's supposed to do.
4. Is Alie2 afraid of making a tech savvy culture that it will become redundant, or man remembers that it is a tool and not God. Although maybe it's not till near "now" that radiation levels have lowered to the point that advanced tech can work "well" without shielding (more rubber and insulation, which is not a lot of effort.).
5. Why did Alie2 put up with Mount Weather? Did Allie2 control Mount Weather, and use it as a boogieman stick to keep the hundreds of thousands of savages in the local area controlled? Seriously, 300 adults with 36 children? It's possible that Alie2 was making the Weathermen more allergic to the outside world, but the Weathermen were in the process of dying out if there were so few breeding pairs left who were not breeding. Although Mount Weather's population probably had to be kept uniform to it's resources just like the Ark... If the Ark was controlled partially by Alie2, then it must have broken the CO2 scrubbers, and chosen Mount Weather as a good spot to send a lander with colonists.
6. Alie2 MADE Lexa fall in love with Clark. Chemicals. So many love chemicals. No one in the history of the world has loved as hard as Lexa did because she being drugged and manipulated by a passive aggressive AI to want to rub carpet with the spacegirl despite shitting on everything she believed in and the people she was supposed the leading as their leader.
Black blood has been around for a while.
Half a season?
1. Less irradiated/less mutated humans are more compatible with Alie2 technology and their blood can be blackened by secondary sources.
2. Intense genetic modification was done to Becca to make her compatible with Alie2 tech, so only her descendants will have black blood and be able to use the Alie2 chip.
3. Is Alie2 really doing anything? Either it's trying to make a healthy human civilization which is more important than a tech savvy civilization, or the chip is broken/can't help/exert subconscious guidance of human culture like it's supposed to do.
4. Is Alie2 afraid of making a tech savvy culture that it will become redundant, or man remembers that it is a tool and not God. Although maybe it's not till near "now" that radiation levels have lowered to the point that advanced tech can work "well" without shielding (more rubber and insulation, which is not a lot of effort.).
5. Why did Alie2 put up with Mount Weather? Did Allie2 control Mount Weather, and use it as a boogieman stick to keep the hundreds of thousands of savages in the local area controlled? Seriously, 300 adults with 36 children? It's possible that Alie2 was making the Weathermen more allergic to the outside world, but the Weathermen were in the process of dying out if there were so few breeding pairs left who were not breeding. Although Mount Weather's population probably had to be kept uniform to it's resources just like the Ark... If the Ark was controlled partially by Alie2, then it must have broken the CO2 scrubbers, and chosen Mount Weather as a good spot to send a lander with colonists.
6. Alie2 MADE Lexa fall in love with Clark. Chemicals. So many love chemicals. No one in the history of the world has loved as hard as Lexa did because she being drugged and manipulated by a passive aggressive AI to want to rub carpet with the spacegirl despite shitting on everything she believed in and the people she was supposed the leading as their leader.
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Actually, if you really pay close attention, Becca (was that her name? I'm really awful at names) said her goal for Allie 2.0 was to make it learn from human experiences. That could be all the chip has been doing for the last 97 years, and it won't actually "wake up" until Allie 1.0 gets her grubby hands on the chip.
Still, my problem is with the whole Commander thing at all. It was clearly stated last season that Lexa was the first Commander, and that it was a relatively recent deal. Prior to her, there were just tons of random clans doing whatever, and none of them seemed to have any interest (indeed, they were terrified of) technology, and not just because of Mount Weather. (Nevermind the weirdness of Becca not having any association with Mount Weather to begin with; "I want to fix what I did, so I'll stay around in the wastelands with no technology while a swanky high tech base is a walking distance away.")
But now, they're implying that it's a title and position that has existed since the very beginning, and that Polis has been the Grounder's main HQ the whole time. Complete with its own technology-worshipping religion.
I just can't get it to connect in my head.
Still, my problem is with the whole Commander thing at all. It was clearly stated last season that Lexa was the first Commander, and that it was a relatively recent deal. Prior to her, there were just tons of random clans doing whatever, and none of them seemed to have any interest (indeed, they were terrified of) technology, and not just because of Mount Weather. (Nevermind the weirdness of Becca not having any association with Mount Weather to begin with; "I want to fix what I did, so I'll stay around in the wastelands with no technology while a swanky high tech base is a walking distance away.")
But now, they're implying that it's a title and position that has existed since the very beginning, and that Polis has been the Grounder's main HQ the whole time. Complete with its own technology-worshipping religion.
I just can't get it to connect in my head.
But the worshipping seems disjointed. No one has had a conference and connected all the dots.
That would line up with my thoughts about the chip too. The references to the souls of the other Commanders moving on could actually be references to the chip storing their memories and then sharing them with it's future hosts.
Are you sure about that? I just watched season 2 before this season started, and I think I remember there being references to past Commanders. Before this season a lot of the references to the Grounders outside of Trikru were rather vague, so I don't really remember where there were explict references to their history that can't be worked around somehow.
I might have been misremembering and misinterpreting things, but I had interpreted the Commander to be the leader of Trikiru and Polis to be their capital, and that creation of the other Coalition had brought the members of the other Tribes there for the first time. Has there been anything said that would definitely rule that out?
As far as I know the only people who are explicitly not members of Trikru are the handful of ambassadors we've seen in Lexa's throne room or whatever you want to call it.
I was sad to see Alycia Debnam-Carey exit the show, but she's (hopefully) making loads more money playing a sulky daughter on Fear the Walking Dead -- even if Lexa is a much more interesting character for her to play.
The show will probably be losing Lincoln pretty soon as well, but in Ricky Whittle's case, he'll be moving on to the much meatier role of Shadow on American Gods. His time spent as Lincoln, silently scowling in the background, should serve him well on American Gods as he chauffeurs Wednesday around from one strange situation to the next.
The tying together of the flashback story and the present Commander storyline was very well done.
I thought Erica Cerra delivered an excellent performance as the AI creator. This is the first time I've ever been impressed by her acting ability, but that may be more due to her not being given a proper opportunity to demonstrate her talent before this episode or on Eureka.
The show will probably be losing Lincoln pretty soon as well, but in Ricky Whittle's case, he'll be moving on to the much meatier role of Shadow on American Gods. His time spent as Lincoln, silently scowling in the background, should serve him well on American Gods as he chauffeurs Wednesday around from one strange situation to the next.
The tying together of the flashback story and the present Commander storyline was very well done.
I thought Erica Cerra delivered an excellent performance as the AI creator. This is the first time I've ever been impressed by her acting ability, but that may be more due to her not being given a proper opportunity to demonstrate her talent before this episode or on Eureka.
Well that last ep was kinda boring, and Bellamy is an idiot. How could anyone trust Bellamy ever after all this swapping and changing allegiances?
Raven's resistance was interesting, drunk melted Maya guy is also being used well. But after last weeks dramas this felt like one long meeting taking place in hallways.
Raven's resistance was interesting, drunk melted Maya guy is also being used well. But after last weeks dramas this felt like one long meeting taking place in hallways.
Yeah, it was a bit of a let down after last week. But at least Bellamy and Monty appear to be coming to their senses.
I forgot that Ricky Whittle is going to be one of the leads on American Gods. I wonder how Lincoln will die?
After so much of the season has been based around what's going on in Polis, I was surprised we didn't get a single scene there this week.
The whole thing with Raven forgetting Finn was an interesting twist in the City of Lights story. I guess that must mean that it makes you "better" simply by making you forget the things causing you pain. I wonder what it will take to get it removed if Raven or one of the others decide they don't want it any more?
If this were any other show I would assume that they weren't actually going to execute Kane, but this is The 100, so I'm not so sure.
I forgot that Ricky Whittle is going to be one of the leads on American Gods. I wonder how Lincoln will die?
After so much of the season has been based around what's going on in Polis, I was surprised we didn't get a single scene there this week.
The whole thing with Raven forgetting Finn was an interesting twist in the City of Lights story. I guess that must mean that it makes you "better" simply by making you forget the things causing you pain. I wonder what it will take to get it removed if Raven or one of the others decide they don't want it any more?
If this were any other show I would assume that they weren't actually going to execute Kane, but this is The 100, so I'm not so sure.
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I'm very happy it's renewed! How many more eps this season?
Raven just wanted some relief from her physical pain. Thelonious wanted religion. Makes sense that Raven isn't as accepting of it.
Good point!
You both bring up some very interesting points. I wonder if her followers become more accepting of her and the effects she has over time. If Raven doesn't get the chip out will she eventually become more accepting, whether she wants or not?
I lost interest around episode three and just let the episodes pile up on my dvr until I had the final 12 episodes there. Last week I started to watch them and finished them off last night.
Part of the problem for me trying to get through the episodes is I really hated Pike. He kept insisting he was trying to protect his people yet his every action endangered them even further. It was just frustrating dealing with an antagonist that didn't seem all that bright. Pike is lucky that Clark was able to stop Alexa from wiping out Arkadia. Didn't like him executing Lincoln either so I'm glad that Octavia killed him once the Alie threat was over.
Like always the final few episodes were pretty tense. They barely trump he'd over Alie. And of course now the looming threat of nuclear meltdown is on the horizon. How will they be able to prevent most of the Earth's surface being rendered in operable? Who will be the new Commander? Is Indra dead? It wasn't too clear on that. Looking forward to next season.
Also when they did the flashback episode to Pike teaching the 100 Earth skills I was surprised that it had only been six months since they got to Earth. I thought more time had passed than that.
Part of the problem for me trying to get through the episodes is I really hated Pike. He kept insisting he was trying to protect his people yet his every action endangered them even further. It was just frustrating dealing with an antagonist that didn't seem all that bright. Pike is lucky that Clark was able to stop Alexa from wiping out Arkadia. Didn't like him executing Lincoln either so I'm glad that Octavia killed him once the Alie threat was over.
Like always the final few episodes were pretty tense. They barely trump he'd over Alie. And of course now the looming threat of nuclear meltdown is on the horizon. How will they be able to prevent most of the Earth's surface being rendered in operable? Who will be the new Commander? Is Indra dead? It wasn't too clear on that. Looking forward to next season.
Also when they did the flashback episode to Pike teaching the 100 Earth skills I was surprised that it had only been six months since they got to Earth. I thought more time had passed than that.
Commenting because I had a hard time finding this. Getting into this season, at episode 9, due to my wife
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