That awesome opening scene

[RoJoHen]

You know what's really pathetic? In the later scene between Kirk and Pike in the bar, when Pike does the "Your father was in command of a starship for 12 minutes" speech, I think, "I remember that! That happened 10 minutes ago! It was so sad!" and by the time he gets to "I dare you to do better," I'm crying again from the memory of the opening scene!

 

[MyCylon]

I was afraid a thread like this would come along sooner or later

I started this thread 17 days ago, thank you very much.

Hmm, maybe it took me this long to overcome the opening sequence and realize the thread existed .

As for the rest of your review...um...I disagree!

I think just about EVERYONE around here does .

That birth scene just broke my heart.

I'm afraid the only breaking it did for me was almost breaking my desire to continue watching the movie. But I'm glad I stayed anyway .

As I said somewhere else, I'm happy this scene was so powerful for so many here on the board. But I really don't get it myself, and neither did any of my friends who were along.

Well.. you are entitled to your opinion. We Star Trek fans surely are a tolerant bunch

Well, tolerant enough, anyway .

It was clear from the start that the Kelvin had next to zero chances of winning this fight.. at best it could escape but that was no option either as soon as the warp drive was gone.

I'm wondering though: Was there no window for escape BEFORE the warp drive was taken out? I think my first impulse was something like: Get out of there, warn Starfleet. In my memory of the scene, it took quite some time before the Warp drive went offline. But I could be wrong.

A negative example of chaos would be the film style of Michael Bay where i really can't tell anything and important stuff happens during the action and i scratch my head when the dust settles wondering when that happened.

I didn't realize important stuff even happened in Michael Bay films - must have missed it in all the action .

As to Robeau (i like my spealling better ). He knew he can't match the Narada in combat and running is out of the question so he turns himself in hoping these few minutes of cease fire would give his crew enough time to either flee or prepare to fight. Maybe he hoped it would give them enough time to get the warpdrive running again so they could escape but i believe his main goal was to buy the Kelvin some time and maybe the faint hope that it was a misunderstanding and it could be resolved somehow without the need for further battle.

I certainly get this part (to an extent, anyway). I think my main question really is whether or not there would have been ample time to just run before the Warp drive went offline.

However he must have known that chances were slim and he would venture into a lions den alone and unarmed and that is what makes him so popular here.

I certainly liked Robeau (since you like this spelling better ). I thought the actor had a great presence.
Still, I tend to think there are moments when running is the better option overall. And this seems like one of them to me (again, of course, it depends on whether or not they actually had the opportunity). As it is, I always have it in the back of my head that his sacrifice as well as the loss of the ship were somewhat unnecessary.

 

[seven14]

Originally Posted by Justtoyourleft
I was afraid a thread like this would come along sooner or later

I started this thread 17 days ago, thank you very much.

Firstly, RoJoHen Thank you so much for starting this thread! I was scrolling and came across it and was very happy to include my thoughts.

Re: That awesome opening scene

You know what's really pathetic? In the later scene between Kirk and Pike in the bar, when Pike does the "Your father was in command of a starship for 12 minutes" speech, I think, "I remember that! That happened 10 minutes ago! It was so sad!" and by the time he gets to "I dare you to do better," I'm crying again from the memory of the opening scene!
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Secondly, crying after being moved (regardless if it's by the words or actions of fictional characters )is not pathetic!!! Thispart of the movie also resonated with me. Bruce Greenwood's well modulated voice, speaking these words to a very lost young man. I don't think anyone had ever praised his father and his actions in his home with the Uncle...I don't know about the mother, her part was left murky, after the birth, but Lil Kirk was not a happy young boy and equally unhappy young man.

I went into the movie probably seeing one or two YT vids of the Trailer, so when Captain Pike speaks these few words, it was spoken just the right way for a kid that's been used to yelling and screaming and being yelled and screamed at his entire life, to be told this story so calmly and matter of factly, but with real praise for Captain GKirk, to me is probably what really got through Kirk's foggy brain... and Thank Goodness for that!

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Well I just got back from seeing it a fourth time. Cried the first time and cried this time, at the birth, the death and the momentous moment when the words STAR TREK come up against a silver metal Starfleet insignia. What an incredible opening.

 

[FPAlpha]

I'm wondering though: Was there no window for escape BEFORE the warp drive was taken out? I think my first impulse was something like: Get out of there, warn Starfleet. In my memory of the scene, it took quite some time before the Warp drive went offline. But I could be wrong.

I believe the warpdrive was destroyed/damaged in the opening salvo of the Narada or else Robeau would have surely ordered to warp out and warn Starfleet.

So there really wasn't anything the Kelvin could do or it would be Starfleet protocol to run as soon as they encounter a bigger ship than theirs but then Starfleet would be the laughing stock of the Alpha Quadrant and that would make for boring movies when the Enterprise takes on Shuttles and small luxury liners

 

[slappy]

Yeah, great scene. Perfect. Everything about it was great, Robau was dignified and brave, even knowing he was facing a genocidal murderer alone. The panel screaming "TERMINATED" was just chilling. Then when the Kelvin explodes and George was thrown toward the screen, it was just sad and terrible. Yet awesome.