Why?
The first quote turned out to be pretty timeless, the second one is my favorite moment of all the movies
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The first one only. Other than a meaningless Miles and Danny Dyson cameo played by different actors I can think of no real connection to T2. Those events never happen. T1000 also a different actor....except the first two movies, that is.
It put things into a blender so that the original pieces are almost unrecognizable and have no continuity to what came before. Whatever an individual’s on opinions on the quality of T3 and T4 at least they build on what came before.
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The events may be overwritten, but Genisys is still clearly a sequel that expects you to know T2 as well. The Dysons, the T1000 as a known quantity, the "No Fate" quotation, the name "Judgment Day" and the date it happens all come from T2.
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It's the true sequel for being the best in quality. Heady,Glau,Manson and Dillahant were the best characters and use of characters since T2. Jason
Ah...similar to the way the latest Halloween film disregarded every sequel ever produced, only acknowledging the original. Its the best move, even when he producers knew they might anger fans of those Terminator sequels...sure, there's only a handful of them, but still....
Really? I've heard more good or at least positive reviews for Dark Fate than for Genisys. One of the film's current selling points seems to be that it's either the best of all the post-T2 sequels or even AS good as one of the two originals. Its box office performance notwithstanding I've yet to hear it's as bad as Genisys.
You do realize that T2 had a female hero, a child as the future hope of mankind, a black computer scientist who helped create Skynet in the first place and featured Mexican characters, right? If Dark Fate is pandering in 2019 then T2 wasn't exactly all white bread and milk back in 1991.
There's no direct references or storylines carried over from the other films, but there are some "inspired by" elements, especially in the technological progression of the Terminators.
The Rev-9 Terminator combines the shapeshifting abilities of the T-1000 from T2 (and the T-X and John Connor bot), the separate mimetic "skin" over endoskeleton of the T-X, and the nanites instead of liquid metal of the John Connor bot from GeniSys.
Grace was born a human like Marcus Wright in Salvation, but has been cybernetically augmented to compete in a world of Terminators, with enhanced senses and targeting systems, endoskeletal armor and muscular upgrades for strength and resiliency, etc.
So even though the timelines are erased or shunted into alternate universes, similar technological progress still occurs as Judgment Day and the war gets pushed further and further into the future.
Yes, except we have seen people - mostly younger ones - who believe anything made before 2004 is ancient history and unevolved and was nothing but your bleached allusion and think all of these new movies are somehow new and never done before.
There are similarities. There are differences.
Also, wasn't T2's kid killed in T6 or whatever it should be called, using the same-old alternate-timeline to regurgitate the same old movie plot points again and again and forevermore? (Which means T20 will do the same uninspired paint-by-numbers shtick.)
If the movie scores a zillion in the ratings count... Bring out the champagne. Just remember the Simpsons Adage: "50 million smokers can't be wrong when they tell you you're not cool for smoking what they are." Well, i say "Adage". It's not a rule because there are exceptions that exist. But not as much regarding art or popularity contests.
Yes, I noticed all those too. Even though Cameron had no involvement in those movies there is conceptual ideas from the sequels. It definitely adds an layer of subtext for the hardcore fans.
When this was first announced James Cameron said T3, TG, TS could be viewed as alternate timelines. I would like that explored.
It’s a new timeline meaning no Judgement Day 1997. But the people in that timeline could still exist in the new future. For years there was speculation of Arnold play the Human model of the T101. That guy would have a different life but still exist. How about Robert Patrick as the guy who invented time travel?
But they also had a male hero in Reese. Well if you need more proof here it is. The franchise is officially done with this movie. It's the worst performing in the entire franchise.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/get-woke-go-broke-terminator-dark-fate-bombs-at-the-box-office
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Point of order, Reese wasn't in T2.
Again, wrong.
Well it looks like the audience disagrees. The franchise has just died with this movie. I hope they didn't plan on a sequel. Lol!
I love that you're whining about not wanting movies to have any kind of political message, no matter how minor, like that's somehow a new thing, and yet you're so comfortably ensconced in your safe space that you can't even manage to get entertainment news from a non-conservative site that doesn't reinforce the little bubble you live in. Do you need permission from the party leadership before deciding if it's okay to watch Mr. Robot, or is that too anti-corporate? Do they decide what breakfast cereal you eat in the morning? Is Tony the Tiger secretly part of the gay agenda, so Frosted Flakes are out? I have my suspicions with him still wearing an ascot in 2019. It must be exhausting not being able to live your life without seeing whether something is on the approved list or not first.
At least now we know where all your commentary for this thread comes from. You couldn't even form an independent thought without someone else giving you something to parrot from first. It's kind of sad, really.
The writers of the "article" should also familiarize themselves with the phrase "correlation does not imply causation." The much simpler explanation for the film's box office performance is probably that people are burned out after so many Terminator movies, not that its alleged "wokeness" turned them off (at least not the general audience). That's just manbabies liking to over-inflate their influence again to compensate for their many inadequacies and failures.
That has nothing to do with what I said and quoted.
I've always wondered how people link their perception of how good a film is with its' opening weekend at the box office.
How can the quality of a film no one has seen yet influence the numbers of people who go see it? Is there not a logical flaw in there?
I'm curious. Do you like anything that doesn't have a female hero? Like TOS or Die Hard etc.. Jason
Actually, he was, but his scene was cut.
So he wasn't in it.
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