It was superb.
Terminator Genisys - Discussion and Grading Thread (Spoilers)
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Yeah, I enjoyed T:SCC as well. Two hotties in lead roles (Lena Headey and Summer Glau) and a good story to boot.
Going to have to check out the show.
Getting back to the film, I was wondering whether I liked it more or less than T3, but I think I might like it better than T3 because I thought they screwed with the "protect John Connor" formula of the last 4 films. I liked the originality, but as I mentioned before, the execution wasn't always as on target as I would've liked.
Getting back to the film, I was wondering whether I liked it more or less than T3, but I think I might like it better than T3 because I thought they screwed with the "protect John Connor" formula of the last 4 films. I liked the originality, but as I mentioned before, the execution wasn't always as on target as I would've liked.
I felt fairly "meh" about this one; I certainly didn't hate it but I also didn't really enjoy it, either. I just didn't feel there was anything special about it, in particular. I found a lot of the action a bit boring, frankly. I guess I've just seen one too many Terminator films. Maybe I'm just bored of it in general.
I find it also very telling that in the packed theater I attended, on the 4th of July, it was fairly quiet: no cheering, no laughing (an occasional snicker), no oohing and aahing over the stunts---just quiet.
I find it also very telling that in the packed theater I attended, on the 4th of July, it was fairly quiet: no cheering, no laughing (an occasional snicker), no oohing and aahing over the stunts---just quiet.
The past had some funny ideas about the future.
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Terminator Genisys made only $10.8 million on Friday.
OUCH. Looks like it's a toss-up between this and Disney's Tomorrowland for Bomb of the Year.
OUCH. Looks like it's a toss-up between this and Disney's Tomorrowland for Bomb of the Year.
As someone who greatly enjoyed all four movies... I wasn't really thrilled with this one. It was just the ideas of the first three movies thrown into a blender and regurgitated, with the one twist about John being something I just have a huge fundamental problem with. I definitely preferred 3 and 4 to this.
I don't think I've liked Jai Courtney in a single thing I've seen him in, so I definitely didn't enjoy him as the lead in the movie. I like Isaac Clarke but he didn't feel right as John Connor (particularly the back half of the movie of course).
The only part of the movie that worked for me was Sarah and Pops.
Also, why the hell was Matt Smith so heavily promoted in the lead up to the movie when he's in it for all of two minutes?!?!?!
And his character just raises a ton of questions.
I don't think I've liked Jai Courtney in a single thing I've seen him in, so I definitely didn't enjoy him as the lead in the movie. I like Isaac Clarke but he didn't feel right as John Connor (particularly the back half of the movie of course).
The only part of the movie that worked for me was Sarah and Pops.
Also, why the hell was Matt Smith so heavily promoted in the lead up to the movie when he's in it for all of two minutes?!?!?!
And his character just raises a ton of questions.
Why did he help the Resistance break into the time machine and wait for them to use it before attacking? And why did he infect John as Kyle was going back in time? For the distraction? Why not do it before or after?
If Skynet is capable of making perfect infiltration Terminators like that, why was he the only one? If Skynet successfully took over John, why did they sent yet another Terminator to kill Sarah when she was a child? Why did Skynet choose to appear as Matt Smith when it talked to them as a hologram?
If Skynet is capable of making perfect infiltration Terminators like that, why was he the only one? If Skynet successfully took over John, why did they sent yet another Terminator to kill Sarah when she was a child? Why did Skynet choose to appear as Matt Smith when it talked to them as a hologram?
1. Maybe Skynet sent Terminators back to only "almost" kill the Connors, because they are necessary to Skynet's personal timeline?
2. There may have been more than one Skynet in play. Future Skynet, or parallel Skynet from a different future, or as we have come to see, all time travelers are from different futures, because all time travel, butterfly wings, creates new futures no matter how subtly different, or mostly the same.
3. All futures might continue to exist sharing the same pasts up to a point of divergence, which is how many futures where able land on top of the same 1984, as well as the wrong 1984.
4. If Skynet itself doesn't go back into the past, what's the ####ing point? Timetravel is murder.
I didn't think Matt Smith's appearance was very heavily promoted. And in any event he was a version of Syknet from an anternate future, the timeline was altered ever since the T1000 was sent back to 1973 to kill Sarah and Pops was sent to rescue her. Once the timeline was altered Judgment Day was changed from 1997 to 2017 and now seemingly not at all.
The 2029 we saw in the beginning was from the original movie.
John Connor was never conceived in the timeline Pops corrupted.
John Connor was never conceived in the timeline Pops corrupted.
Matt Smith shared the Entertainment Weekly cover with Clarke.
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John had to have existed for Pops to know that Kyle and Sarah needed to mate to produce him.
The original movie was a closed loop - a predestination paradox. Therefore there was never a timeline where John was not conceived.
The original movie was loopy, but not necessarily a loop, and we not only have no idea if it a was closed system, but everything else in the franchise screams that it was not.
Besides, as soon as the second Terminator, the Robert Patrick T-1000 arrived in 1997, which it still did, it would find that John had never been born, thanks to the new movie, because Sarah totally skipped the 90s.
Note that both 1997s would have to exist, with and without John, each leading to a completely different 2029, which is how a time traveler would arrive in all parallel versions of the past, despite coming from even another different timeline.
This of course means in the original movie there was a less corrupted timeline where Kyle Reese never arrived. Arnold's T-800 had a clean line of fire, and may have achieved his mission. Kyle's arrival did (creating a new timeline) and did not happen, and happened (ad did not happen) in all possible parallel pasts that were happening and not happening.
Why did Miles Dyson look younger in 2017 than he did in 1997?
Besides, as soon as the second Terminator, the Robert Patrick T-1000 arrived in 1997, which it still did, it would find that John had never been born, thanks to the new movie, because Sarah totally skipped the 90s.
Note that both 1997s would have to exist, with and without John, each leading to a completely different 2029, which is how a time traveler would arrive in all parallel versions of the past, despite coming from even another different timeline.
This of course means in the original movie there was a less corrupted timeline where Kyle Reese never arrived. Arnold's T-800 had a clean line of fire, and may have achieved his mission. Kyle's arrival did (creating a new timeline) and did not happen, and happened (ad did not happen) in all possible parallel pasts that were happening and not happening.
Why did Miles Dyson look younger in 2017 than he did in 1997?
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Am I the only one who would have rather seen a movie about the T-800 traveling back to the 1970s to protect a young Sarah Conner? That to me seemed far more interesting than anything else in this movie, especially the sight of a scary, 80s-style Terminator as a protector instead of the friendlier later version.
The movie's writers explain Matt Smith's character, leaving me further confused 
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72168
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72168
The movie's writers explain Matt Smith's character, leaving me further confused
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72168
Yeah, Skynet has actually survived its own destruction multiple times in this new timeline according to the writers. That's how it came to the realization that it didn't need to kill Connor, it needed to convert him to work on the side of Skynet. Hence making him a hybrid.
