"The temporal wake must have somehow protected us from changes in the timeline."
Terminator-209 "Complications" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>
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"The temporal wake must have somehow protected us from changes in the timeline."
I'll admit I had a similar nightmare once to Ellison's visitor two weeks ago.
Siwilliams
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While I was watching this episode, I was initially bored out of my mind. However,after the episode sunk in a little, I was definitely able to appreciate it more.
I especially liked how they essentially made Fischer the worst person in human history, as he was the one who installs a backdoor in the military computers that allows skynet to initiate judgement day. If Jesse hadn't killed him, then maybe they would have got him to fess up to what he had done.
It was also interesting thinking about all the causality or time loops in the episode.
I especially liked how they essentially made Fischer the worst person in human history, as he was the one who installs a backdoor in the military computers that allows skynet to initiate judgement day. If Jesse hadn't killed him, then maybe they would have got him to fess up to what he had done.
It was also interesting thinking about all the causality or time loops in the episode.
If Jesse comes from a future where Derek was tortured by this guy, and he really constantly talked about it like she said, maybe she wanted to give him some kind of closure by letting Derek kill him.
Decent episode, cant say I overally cared about Sarah's dreams though. The Terminators peering through that glass window was creepy...
Siwilliams
Fleet Captain
Is there only one more new episode on till there is a long hiatus? Will they repeat the episodes of season two so far?
Often more contemplative than action driven, but a solid episode in all I thought. It was interesting to get an on screen confirmation as to the nature of time travel on this show as well as the further emotional exploration of Cameron.
Above Average
Above Average
I think Jesse set this all up. I think Jesse was the one tortured, she is working with the machines. She new Fisher would not be the man he becomes if she does not initiate it. She had to get Fisher to change, so he can teach the machines. Thats why she shoots older Fisher, because Derek was going to shoot younger Fisher. Then she says they have to let him go, some BS about him not being the monster, well she created that monster. They don't even check up on him.
FINALLY!
I was going insane about how everyone thought the future was set no matter wheat changes they made to the past.
I hate predestination.
Surely after the time jump, Skynets guestimate about when Sarah was impregnated would be off by about ten years, unless soldiers sent into the past from other futures were allying itself with Skynet and letting it know what's what...
Do you think Young Skynet enjoys bending over for destiny and being fates bitch any better than John? All these super advanced AI cyborgs wandering around poking into it's AI forcing changes to it's desired interest in growth, dictating the destruction of humanity...
Really, if Judgmentday happened in the first place because Man tried to impose it's will over Skynet, then why should Skynet be so eager to submit to some elder Skynet who is not so shit hot that it is losing a war with man which is spilling sideways and backwards in time... Surely Skynet can tell the difference between a good future and bad future and it just doesnt't take orders blindly from other machines just because they claim to know what they're doing?
I was going insane about how everyone thought the future was set no matter wheat changes they made to the past.
I hate predestination.
Surely after the time jump, Skynets guestimate about when Sarah was impregnated would be off by about ten years, unless soldiers sent into the past from other futures were allying itself with Skynet and letting it know what's what...
Do you think Young Skynet enjoys bending over for destiny and being fates bitch any better than John? All these super advanced AI cyborgs wandering around poking into it's AI forcing changes to it's desired interest in growth, dictating the destruction of humanity...
Really, if Judgmentday happened in the first place because Man tried to impose it's will over Skynet, then why should Skynet be so eager to submit to some elder Skynet who is not so shit hot that it is losing a war with man which is spilling sideways and backwards in time... Surely Skynet can tell the difference between a good future and bad future and it just doesnt't take orders blindly from other machines just because they claim to know what they're doing?
It's going to be visited in Self-Made Man. Here's a bit of a hint though to their status:
A very distinct possibility. There is more to Jesse than meets the eye and that's going to be explored as the season goes on.
Agreed, and it's giving me a helluva headache just thinking about it.
IMO, it'd be so much simpler if TPTB came out and simply said that our timeline (what I call the "primeline" — the one inhabited by the current day TSCC) is being targeted for "acquisition" by a parallel timeline where Skynet won, and a third timeline — one where humanity survived Judgment Day and went on to win — has become aware of this attempt and is sending operatives in of its own to keep our primeline from falling into Skynet's shadow.
There. See how simple that is?!
Gatekeeper
excellent
this b the first excellent i've given to a season 2 ep. the plot moved forward (quite intriguingly as well). no big explosions needed, just good old fashioned storytelling. i have no idea where this thing is going, which I love. That traitorous bastid Ellison must die!!!!!! it's cool to see some of the consequences of the peeps messing with the timeline too. The show is definitely back to seaosn 1 standards. yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!
this b the first excellent i've given to a season 2 ep. the plot moved forward (quite intriguingly as well). no big explosions needed, just good old fashioned storytelling. i have no idea where this thing is going, which I love. That traitorous bastid Ellison must die!!!!!! it's cool to see some of the consequences of the peeps messing with the timeline too. The show is definitely back to seaosn 1 standards. yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!
Siwilliams
Fleet Captain
Can't remember much now, but part of it was of Sarah looking at the writings on the wall, and it looked like a lot of stuff happens