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Terminator-209 "Complications" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>

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^ That has been moved to December 1st. The episode is called Self Made Man.

thought next episode was the last new one for a while, cool that there is two more new ones.

Possibly three. I've heard rumors that the final episode of the first part of season two will air on December 15.

Schedule:
11/24/08 - Strange Things Happen at the One-Two Point
12/01/08 - Self Made Man
12/08/08 - Alpine Fields
12/15/08 - Earthlings Welcome Here
 
^ That has been moved to December 1st. The episode is called Self Made Man.

thought next episode was the last new one for a while, cool that there is two more new ones.

Possibly three. I've heard rumors that the final episode of the first part of season two will air on December 15.

Schedule:
11/24/08 - Strange Things Happen at the One-Two Point
12/01/08 - Self Made Man
12/08/08 - Alpine Fields
12/15/08 - Earthlings Welcome Here

Good, then they could definitely show the trailer to T4, and they should advertise that the trailer will air during the show, if they do that
 
More about the trailer:

Originally the trailer was to be aired with Quantum of Solace; however, Warner Brothers pulled it and it is being reworked. It is not scheduled for release as of yet.
 
Well, as long as Cam's moonlighting job isn't anything stupid like being a stripper or something...though you never know with Fox execs.

....I fail to see how that could possibly be stupid ;)

By virtue of being so mind-numbingly obvious, right up with her being a high-priced call-girl. :shifty:

Meh, better this than something "out of left field" or "not obvious" like working at a convenience store.
 
Finally saw this episode last night and it took me a while to figure out that Charles Fisher and Charles Fisher were the same men. The changing of the future concept threw a nice wrench into the works, and Ellison's "double cross" will most certainly bite him in the ass.

Above Average.
 
This leads me to belive that the derek on the show is the "real" derek as in the Derek that was before time started to Loop.

No, time "started to loop" the second Arnie came back in T1. *That* Derek is long gone, timeline-wise.
 
Self doubt is not sexy.

And it hardly matches with the descriptions of his mother John was waxing on about in the second movie.

Besides, I have to wonder why Sarah has any faith in head shrinking after spending a little time in a bedlam like she did?
She does seem to be suspicious of therapists, including Dr. Sherman. Unfortunately what he says is completely correct. Therapy won't be effective until she can find someone she trusts enough to reveal her place in the war against the machines from the future. If Dr. Sherman somehow discovered what was going on independently and believed it, then he could truly be someone there for all of the characters on the show.

That sounds like a really good idea for an episode actually. Maybe Ellison has a crisis of faith and decides to see Dr. Sherman, but understands that he'd be regarded as crazy if all he had was his story. So, he manufactures a situation which makes Sherman involved. Then Sherman has to struggle with the burden of this knowledge while trying to counsel his patients who also have that burden. It could make him empathetic or hesitant to counsel as he could feel too close to the situation.
 
Therapists, Psychologist, Psychiatrists... They're just prostitutes which you buy the advice of a well meaning concerned friend from.
 
Therapists, Psychologist, Psychiatrists... They're just prostitutes which you buy the advice of a well meaning concerned friend from.
Well, if only because some people aren't in situations in which they can talk to people they know about sensitive personal topics therapy serves as a surrogate for that kind of outlet. Everybody needs someone in which to confide, and it's even better if that someone is an experienced listener who's studied the myriad problems people can have in both an academic and practical context.

But if therapy's not for someone then they probably need something like it, be it a friend with some distance from their current situation, or a mentor, or something.
 
There's nothing wrong with being a prostitute, they invented psychology, and 4 thousand years later Freud used Psychiatry as a beard to make husbands pay him to sleep with their wives.

They are interdisplacing disciplines of which neither is entirely innocent.

In my minds eye right now, I can see this Sherman Bloke trying to talk Skynet down from destroying Humanity 20 seconds before judgement day takes it's final shape.

I wonder what Skynet would make a movie like 2001?

And what's that one about the robot cowboy theme park that tries to sublimate man?
 
This leads me to belive that the derek on the show is the "real" derek as in the Derek that was before time started to Loop.

No, time "started to loop" the second Arnie came back in T1. *That* Derek is long gone, timeline-wise.

If that is the case then how do you explain that John was fathered by somebody was sent back from the future. That means that T1 wasn't the first loop. The only solution was that the "original" John Connor was fathered by somebody other than Kyle Reese.
 
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