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Taylor Swift Is Racist!
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I think it was the twerking thing.
Lots of big black booty.
It reminded me of the shake your tail feather dance in the Blues Brothers.
How inelegant black women are, shaking their bums at the camera compared to ballet.
...Even though I'm pretty sure there were some black ballerinas.
but then I'm being racist assuming that it's the black people who have some how been insulted when there was at least four races in that music video and the other races should probably feel tetchy about being excluded.
Lots of big black booty.
It reminded me of the shake your tail feather dance in the Blues Brothers.
How inelegant black women are, shaking their bums at the camera compared to ballet.
...Even though I'm pretty sure there were some black ballerinas.
but then I'm being racist assuming that it's the black people who have some how been insulted when there was at least four races in that music video and the other races should probably feel tetchy about being excluded.
I was only paying attention to Taylor's booty, but she doesn't have one apparently. 
She has nothing to "Shake Off".
She has nothing to "Shake Off".
The closer you get, the bigger it seems.
I like it, I think it's a fun video and actually promoting a pretty positive message.
I'd also finding it rather amusing the accusations of racism regarding the twerking, given well, it's not just black women doing it in the video.
As they say, haters gonna hate.
I'd also finding it rather amusing the accusations of racism regarding the twerking, given well, it's not just black women doing it in the video.
As they say, haters gonna hate.
As who says?
I'm not sure I understand your point. Kanye didn't disrespect her because he is racist, he did it because he's a dickhead.
I thought it was because he is a gay fish?
Maybe!
But I can't help but wonder if Kanye would've done the same thing if Taylor was black?
Definitely. Kanye's ego transcends skin color.
Very possibly. As a fellow black man, I haven't seen anything about West that shows him to be a racist.
An egomaniac, yes. Racist? Nah.
I know he has a bit of a douchebag history.
For me personally, that whole Taylor Swift thing left a bad taste.
At the time, Kanye's new album was out and I was going to buy it since I loved the "Graduation" album, but after that incident, I found myself turned off.
TO THIS DAY, I've never downloaded or bought another song or album from him again.
I'm not a Taylor Swift fan, I've never even so much as heard one of her songs. But I did not like what Kanye did to her that night as a fellow artist or as a human being.
I guess I've never seen him the same way.
For me personally, that whole Taylor Swift thing left a bad taste.
At the time, Kanye's new album was out and I was going to buy it since I loved the "Graduation" album, but after that incident, I found myself turned off.
TO THIS DAY, I've never downloaded or bought another song or album from him again.
I'm not a Taylor Swift fan, I've never even so much as heard one of her songs. But I did not like what Kanye did to her that night as a fellow artist or as a human being.
I guess I've never seen him the same way.
Ah, I think you misunderstand. Twerking is a "black thing" and some black people get upset when non-black people do it. It's considered appropriative. Given the context of the video, as well, it could be taken as making fun of twerking.
I mean, it's really small potatoes as these things go, but I can kind of see their point.
I don't think that's the correct interpretation of what she was intending, but I do agree that it's possible to interpret it that way. So people complaining about it are not crazy. I don't think she's saying twerking is silly any more than saying being a ballerina is silly. I think it's a good-natured lampooning of lots of artists and genres.
I don't know. Maybe there's a bigger debate about appropriation in general (in that case, we can bring up Iggy Azalea and all that), but I tend to think musical culture should be allowed to transcend race. Unless the argument is "white people are never allowed to dance to 'black people music,'" there's a thin line between enjoying something and "appropriating it."
I think that, given the history of white appropriation of black musical traditions and music-related activities, black people at least have the right to be sensitive about it. I don't think it'll ever stop a white musician from doing anything, though.
I don't think there is a "correct" interpretation of the video--think postmodern, Alidar.
Everybody sees what they see and is informed by their own cultural context and personal experience. The experience of a lot of black people, as far as I can tell, is white musicians ignorantly swiping their traditions and aesthetics in order to be trendy without really crediting or appreciating the source. Swift's example is probably the lest egregious form I could imagine, though. Miley Cyrus is substantially worse. 
I think Miley Cyrus is the most famous person right now associated with it. Of course, she's been accused of appropriation as well.
Anyway, virtually all of white people music, with the possible exception of country music (which Taylor Swift supposedly sang at one point) has been appropriated from black music. I obviously am in no position to extrapolate the feelings of others, but I wonder why not take that as a compliment. I really don't understand this desire to compartmentalize white people music and black people music as something separate.
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