TAS made real....
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In another franchise that could be a ship right there.
It might look a little odd because only one half of the ship is there. I usually build one side of the ship (assuming it's symetrical) and when finished I mirror the completed half and marry the two halves together. This includes surface detailing as long as thats also symetrical. Any assymetrical detailing I add towards the model's completion.
I'm presently working on the support pylons and nacelles.
I'm presently working on the support pylons and nacelles.
Thanks for the insight into your technique!
Distinctly less advanced than the TOS Enterprise but, a clear line of development in that direction...
Exactly what they should have done the first time.
Exactly what they should have done the first time.
So, why have the nacelles oriented vertically rather than horizontially?
My reasoning is basically two-fold. Firstly I think it looks somewhat more dated than what we're familiar with, at least in this application. It also ties in with my general idea that the first FTL ships were possibly ringships, so a simple dual or tri nacelle design is a major evolution from ring shaped space warp field projectors. This also ties in tangentally with warp ships that will eventually manage with a solitary nacelle such as the destroyer/scout classes seen a century or so later.
I’m not seeing this as a large vessel. The thickness of the main hull might be roughly equivalent to the main saucer of the TOS E with about 8-10 decks.
If “Time Trap” had been an hour long episode we might have learned more about the Bonaventure. We might have met some of its crew or their descendants and learned something of how the ship ended up in the Delta Triangle As an early warp ship, like the Valiant referenced in WNMHGB, one wonders how a relatively slow warp ship could have ended up so far off the beaten path.
My reasoning is basically two-fold. Firstly I think it looks somewhat more dated than what we're familiar with, at least in this application. It also ties in with my general idea that the first FTL ships were possibly ringships, so a simple dual or tri nacelle design is a major evolution from ring shaped space warp field projectors. This also ties in tangentally with warp ships that will eventually manage with a solitary nacelle such as the destroyer/scout classes seen a century or so later.
I’m not seeing this as a large vessel. The thickness of the main hull might be roughly equivalent to the main saucer of the TOS E with about 8-10 decks.
If “Time Trap” had been an hour long episode we might have learned more about the Bonaventure. We might have met some of its crew or their descendants and learned something of how the ship ended up in the Delta Triangle As an early warp ship, like the Valiant referenced in WNMHGB, one wonders how a relatively slow warp ship could have ended up so far off the beaten path.
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I generally agree with you...but here, it works
First renders. The main hull colour is there, but there is other colour to add as well as a little more detailing along with windows, hull markings and maybe lights. We need to remember this is something that could have been worked up as a miniature to appear onscreen briefly and there is a limit to how much effort that might be put into it.
If I may say so I think something like this is more convincing as a 150 year old starship than what we saw onscreen. Indeed something like this might have been more convincing than the NX-01 as a pre TOS ship.
I'm torn over retaining the dish style nav deflector or going with the dome style deflector Jefferies originally envisioned for the TOS E.
If I may say so I think something like this is more convincing as a 150 year old starship than what we saw onscreen. Indeed something like this might have been more convincing than the NX-01 as a pre TOS ship.
I'm torn over retaining the dish style nav deflector or going with the dome style deflector Jefferies originally envisioned for the TOS E.
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Hmm... This almost looks like something you could see on the cover of a SF paperback novel. I find the asymmetrical saucer an interesting departure. I like the big impulse engines that look really dated compared to the compact units of more than a century later. Despite its somewhat clunkier appearance it still manages to suggest speed and with its own character and dignity. Of the renders I posted above I particularly like the upper right image—it evokes a heroic element to the design.
I like to think that while the Bonaventure was the first it wasn’t the only ship of this class.
I like to think that while the Bonaventure was the first it wasn’t the only ship of this class.
Great design, especially the four large "impulse" engines which I assume are attached to an engineering hull. Without transporters, the ship would need to rely heavily on shuttlecraft, so, a hangar(s) is needed. To make access as quick as possible for the bridge crew, perhaps the squarish feature behind the bridge would work. Or something under the nose of the ship a la Seaview. Or port/starboard pop outs vis Firefly. The feature(s) could impart a sense of scale of the ship depending on how big the "hatch" is and how big are the shuttles.
Hmm.... There is something of a retro ‘50’s era UFO feeling to this thing. I didn’t plan it that way, but there you are.
The squarish part on the aft upper section of the main hull is what I speculated to be the hanger bay. The engineering section is that thick boom like structure coming out of the forward hull and aft to the large impulse drivers. I plotted a basic deck cross section to line up where the windows can go resulting in a ship ten decks thick through the main hull, so roughly about the same thickness as the Enterprise’s saucer hull.
I speculate this type of vessel was used primarily as a surveyor of relatively near star systems and planet landings by shuttlecraft would be occasional. As such the mission durations would be something on the order of several months to about a year round trip. This ship class could have cemented the use of nacelles over rings and/or systems, thus making it the “first” with a more familiar warp drive layout. However, whether they are using lithium or dilithium yet in conjunction with antimatter is anyone’s guess. Another question is whether sensor and computer systems were yet capable of navigating while in warp and maintaining a sustained and extended flight in warp or if the ship had to make warp jumps. Maybe something to speculate about.
Without transporters shuttlecraft would be used more, but also much more use of hard docking to orbital complexes as well as to other ships. Indeed in some applications an auxiliary craft could be permanently docked to the exterior hull of a ship rather than bothering with the process of depressurizing and pressurizing a large bay to house auxiliary craft.
Presently I think I'm done except for adding the hull markings.
The squarish part on the aft upper section of the main hull is what I speculated to be the hanger bay. The engineering section is that thick boom like structure coming out of the forward hull and aft to the large impulse drivers. I plotted a basic deck cross section to line up where the windows can go resulting in a ship ten decks thick through the main hull, so roughly about the same thickness as the Enterprise’s saucer hull.
I speculate this type of vessel was used primarily as a surveyor of relatively near star systems and planet landings by shuttlecraft would be occasional. As such the mission durations would be something on the order of several months to about a year round trip. This ship class could have cemented the use of nacelles over rings and/or systems, thus making it the “first” with a more familiar warp drive layout. However, whether they are using lithium or dilithium yet in conjunction with antimatter is anyone’s guess. Another question is whether sensor and computer systems were yet capable of navigating while in warp and maintaining a sustained and extended flight in warp or if the ship had to make warp jumps. Maybe something to speculate about.
Without transporters shuttlecraft would be used more, but also much more use of hard docking to orbital complexes as well as to other ships. Indeed in some applications an auxiliary craft could be permanently docked to the exterior hull of a ship rather than bothering with the process of depressurizing and pressurizing a large bay to house auxiliary craft.
Presently I think I'm done except for adding the hull markings.
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