Meeting Lyco took place after Bad Batch. Note there are Imperial Stormtroopers not TK Troopers in the episodes.
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It's worth remembering that being Dathomirian is like being Corellian or Coruscanti. It's not a matter of species so much as it is of nationality (planetality?) Hence; Maul is a Dathomirian Zabrak.
As for what species Ventress is; I think given that she has the same alabaster complexion as Talzin, the simple answer there is that she's also Dathmiri. That is to say; the original Nightsister lineage from the Witch Kingdom of Peridia. Whether they're human, or human related* is unknown, but probably a pretty safe bet, so far as Star Wars bothers to worry about such things. Which honestly it shouldn't overmuch, given that it's much more fantasy than sci-fi.
I will say that I've long held as my head-canon the notion that Dathmiri are an all-female mono-gendered species that has to mate with males of other compatible races to reproduce, and their sons are always the same species as the father, and their daughters are always Dathmiri. That I think, neatly accounts for why the Nightsisters don't have any obviously Zabrak-hybrid sisters in their ranks, and the Nightbrother clan likewise doesn't have any hornless albinos (that we know of, anyway.) It also easily uncomplicates any discussion about whether Maul and Ventress are hybrids.
As for Elsbeth; I thinks it's no more complicated than her and her mother were adpoted into the clan, which is a thing that's been known to happen (see the "Bug" short story.)
* I really don't like the EU term "Near Human". It always had a certain human supremacist undertone to it. Fine if it's just the Imperial military throwing it around, but as an acceptable term in pretty much any other context or era, it just doesn't sit right with me. Mind you I'm also of the opinion that pretty much every Star Wars species that looks basically human but with other bits (Twi'leks, Togruta, Zabrak, etc, etc) all share some common ancestor with humans. Whether it's the result of natural selection, or ancient genetic engineering to adapt to alien environments prior to terrorforming in the galactic pre-history days of colonisation is an open question.
I thought she was a Dathomirian/Human hybrid, her magic seems much weaker than other Nightsisters until Morrigan augments her.
Sorry autopiloted. The lead great mother is played by Claudia Black so I refer to her as Morrigan.
She tried calling but all she got was a message saying the number was disconnected.
Yeah, I imagine the events of Dark Disciple had to have occurred in the very last days of the war before the Siege of Mandalore. And who knows how long Ventress was stuck on Dathomir before getting off world?
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Hilariously a canon trading card for Quinlan Vos that escaped proper oversight (I assume) said that Quinlan got together with Khaleen Hentz after hiding from Order 66 (presumably pulling from his Legends backstory). It'd be funny if this is why Ventress can't get back to him and not some gobbledybook about removing attachments to resurrect from a Nightsister Lazarus pit (Jedi should technically all be resurrected since they don't have attachments--just one way this episode literally steamrolls everything known about the Force. And people were mad about midichlorians?)
that's not what "literally" means
George Lucas reportedly was extremely upset with Palpatine being resurrected despite groundwork laid in his own prequels and various technobabble provided within Rise of Skywalker to at least give the character's resurrection some believability. One can only imagine his reaction on Ventress being resurrected after being dead for months (per Dark Disciple) by being dumped into a Lazarus pit.
See? It doesn't even make sense. Who claimed he was upset, the usual internet trolls with an established track record of putting their own opinions out there and attaching his name to them?
Neither, Ian McDiarmid himself: https://www.imdb.com/news/ni62729866/
This has gone too far. Is there a reason you're taking this to a personal level? Reported for the uncalled for profanity
Nowhere in that article does Ian say George was upset.
In fact, he doesn't even say he asked George this after getting the Episode 9 role, he's talking about asking him back when filming ROTJ.
This is the same George who wanted to bring Maul back, I'm sure he'd be fine with the Ventress resurrection. Wouldn't even be surprised if Filoni talked with him first.
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It brings you back from the dead after those two weeks? Yeah, that’s a miracle cure; I’ll take it.
And that ignores all the points I made. Well, enjoy the "miracle cure."
It just says he thought Palpatine was dead in 1983. But we all know that.
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