Tales Of The Federation - Akiva Goldsman wants anthology series with classic characters

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  1. Char Kais

    Char Kais Commander Red Shirt

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    A) More nostalgia bait. Exactly what Star Trek needs.

    B) Akiva Goldsman does not know Star Trek canon.
    Jonathan Archer did retire from Starfleet, but he is not just "on Earth".
    Akiva Goldsman kind of forgot that Jonathan Archer was the first president of the United Federation of Planets.
     
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  2. ChristopherPike

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    Well, he obviously would've retired at some point but like former POTUS still be referred to as the President.

    This gives me hope, they might yet canonise the visit to the NCC-1701 Enterprise launch in 2245.
     
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  3. ChristopherPike

    ChristopherPike Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, I'd really like a Star Trek Universe anthology show. It scratches that itch that's always existed since Takei wanted more Captain Sulu, or Enterprise fans wanting to undo their finale, and beyond that individual short-stories that don't fit into either the Strange New Worlds, Picard or Discovery landscape.
     
  4. Dukhat

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    Like all of 3rd generation Star Trek, it doesn’t matter what was established before. Today’s Trek producers and writers are just going to do what they want. So if it was established earlier that Archer went out into space, but nuTrek says he’s on Earth, he’s on Earth.

    I personally think it’s a bad idea to bring back old characters just to show ‘what they’re doing now.’ Sometimes things like that should just be left to the viewers’ imagination. I for one am certainly not happy to have been told what Jean-Luc Picard is ‘doing now.’
     
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  5. Ray Hardgrit

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    There does seem to be a trend lately (not just in Star Trek) of bringing back heroes and having them deal with a tragic event that happened during the years since we last saw them. Just really exploring what it's like for them to be sad and guilty about that thing that happened, and then having them recover their spirit and do something heroic. It's not necessarily a bad idea and a lot of the stories that did this worked out great... but I'm kind of over it now.

    If they do a Tales of the Federation series, and I hope they do, I want it to be about characters (familiar and otherwise) getting things done and going on new adventures, not moping about things that already happened.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    It would surprise me if this gets off the ground.
     
  7. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I kinda like th eidea. A Medium-Lengths Treks (with Short Treks and the TV movie Long Treks)
    Akiva Goldsman recognises that a barely seen graphic never intended to be seen up close or taken seriously is exactly as binding as that sounds.

    President Archer? Yikes.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    Is Presider Archer official? If it came from These are the Voyages I feel the answer should be "No." ;)
     
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  9. jackoverfull

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    Until a couple of years ago this would not have been doable due to the expenses needed to (re)create the look of so many locations, nowadays, with virtual backgrounds, it’s more realistic.

    As for myself, I’ll say the same thing I always do: if it’s well written I’m all for it.

    why wouldn’t he be on earth, president or not?
     
  10. Ray Hardgrit

    Ray Hardgrit Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I feel like the longer these hypothetical one-off Treks are, the more chance they'll have a proper budget and won't have to borrow sets from Discovery and Strange New Worlds, so I'd rather have Feature-Length Treks or Miniseries Treks than Regular-Episode-Length Treks.

    And President Archer came from tiny text on a screen in A Mirror Darkly I think.
     
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    Would they even need the SNW/Disco sets? I think part of Goldsman's train of thought here is that they have a starship set in the LA area now so getting Takei or Bakula back is as easy as having them drive to Burbank or whatever. And if this new ship isn't a redress of the La Sirena set they actually have two whole starship sets they can redress.
     
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  12. Admiral Picard

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    "Tales of the Federation" truely would have a lot of potential to please long term trekkies like us and continue interesting story lines and open ends of my golden era of Trek. Archer, Janeway, Sisko, Sulu, Worf... please do it, in the right fashion! 2 to 5 episode like storylines or feature length episodes would be awesome.
     
  13. The Wormhole

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    He wasn't the first. According to Archer's bio from In a Mirror Darkly, which is where the idea that Archer was ever President of the Federation even comes from, Archer's term in office was from 2184 to 2192. Since the Federation was founded in 2161 (and that's been canon since TNG's fifth season) that means the Federation was around for twenty-three years before Archer became President. Which you apparently forgot. Or maybe never even knew.
    Gray area. As I said, it comes from the file on Archer as seen in the USS Defiant's database in In a Mirror Darkly. Episode writer Mike Sussman (who also wrote the bios for Archer and Hoshi seen in that episode) says that he had no idea when he was writing those files that they would be as readable on screen as they turned out to be and therefore never intended them to be "hard canon." And indeed, a few weeks later TATV establishes things about Shran which completely contradict what was in Archer's file in IAMD.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    Yeah, Archer being president strikes me as a stretch, at best. Head of Starfleet Operations or some other such position, maybe. But not president.
     
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    According to the bio from "In a Mirror, Darkly" he stopped being the Enterprise's CO in 2160 and became Ambassador to Andoria in 2169, so even if they'd want to do a post-captaincy retired Archer story, that does not have him be the president, without ignoring a barely legible piece of background art they could probably do it.
     
  16. WarpFactorZ

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    I've wanted to see this series for almost 40 years now! A Trek-themed "Amazing Stories". It's also a vehicle for things like Section 31 or Seven of Nine adventures (i.e. things that wouldn't drive a series on their own).

    BRING IT ON!
     
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  17. Vger23

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    I like this idea a lot. I think it's a superior idea to any of the other "in development" ideas currently kicking around (Academy, S31). That's not to say I don't like those ideas....I just think this is better.

    The other possibility is exploring characters when they were younger as well....casting a younger Picard and showing him on the Stargazer. Show Kira Nerys battling the Cardassians during the Bajoran occupation. McCoy in medical school (maybe a story involving his non-canon daughter Joanna). Tom Paris getting involved with the Maquis and getting caught.

    There are so many good possibilities.
     
  18. Admiral Picard

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    I really dig the young Picard on Stargazer idea.
     
  19. Tomalak

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    I'd be up for this. I actually really liked the Short Treks format so would like to see an anthology strand.

    It would be a great way to pick up vignettes with legacy characters (see if Ira Behr wants to write a Ferenginar farce starring Grand Nagus Rom and Quark!) and also float new backdoor pilots with original characters.
     
  20. Quinton

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    Dear god, yes. This is the dream.
     
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