SyFy response to the cancellation
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It's probably a by-product of the economy. Actors take whatever work they can get to keep themselves afloat.
I don't know if the Saturday Evening Asylum Monster Movies get better ratings, but, yea, The money made from the Ratings minus The investment in making/airing them makes the Monster Movies more profitable. That may just be down to how small the budgets are for the Monster Movies, though
When's Knepper's movie airing & what's it called?
It's nausea-inducing to think an actor of that caliber is reduced to doing a Skiffy monster movie but hopefully at least he can have fun with the role. I still wish Reconstruction had been greenlit because he sounded like he had a show-stealing role in that one (feral ex-Confederate).
Okay, I'll watch for that...
She needs to be in something other than a Syfy movie. Like something on Starz. Or Cinemax...
Saquist
Commodore
They were absolutely right...the show was trash in the first season and it killed it. BUT lets be honest...the handling of stargate killed it's self....
Yu can't blame SyFy for the decision but you can blame Brad and Joseph...there were other options and likely they should have thought about taking the product to another network if they were going to pull the stunts they did. SGU after Falling Skies (which I've just discovered) would have been an interesting two hours.
Brad and Joe are just TV producers, they're not in a position to be taking the show anywhere. It's a franchise show that belongs to MGM. Besides, the show was supposed to air in the summer, until Syfy changed their minds last minute. That's why there's such an insane gap between production and airing.
SGU could never have held onto Falling Skies' audience on TNT (that's 6 or 7 million viewers). SGU is not nearly as compelling and fun to watch. TNT would have cancelled it quickly when it fell on its face. Falling Skies may not be perfect, but it's far more watchable than SGU.
Saquist
Commodore
I know.
There was just a big lack of everything in SGU. It was like watching a pot of water simmer for two years and never boil. Maybe if SGU had aired in the summer it would still be one right now but I would have given it only one more year.
They simply needed a better concept.
There was just a big lack of everything in SGU. It was like watching a pot of water simmer for two years and never boil. Maybe if SGU had aired in the summer it would still be one right now but I would have given it only one more year.
They simply needed a better concept.
SGU's concept was just fine.
Yeah, the execution was really lacking. There was tremendous potential there, but they never tapped it.
I disagree. I just think so many people had an idea in their head of what Stargate should be, and in fact what sci-fi in general should be after over a decade of dumbed down Trek, that anything that didn't fit the mould fell short of the mould in their eyes. On pure sci-fi content, I can't think of a better series in recent years.
SGU failed in the most basic way any story can fail: it bored me and therefore failed to grab my interest (mainly because there was nothing interesting about any of the characters or the situation).
The sci fi content doesn't matter if I'm not motivated to keep watching.
The sci fi content doesn't matter if I'm not motivated to keep watching.
Yes, your interest is the yardstick by which all storytelling is measured 
Seriously though, I can understand why people didn't like it. It wasn't fast paced, and the characters were intentionally unlikeable, which seems to be unthinkable for a new show these days. For pure sci-f exploration into the human condition, character studies and beautiful cinematography though, I thought it was sublime. It's a shame these sorts of shows die as early as they do, I would have enjoyed more Caprica, Outcasts and to a lesser extent Defying Gravity too...
Seriously though, I can understand why people didn't like it. It wasn't fast paced, and the characters were intentionally unlikeable, which seems to be unthinkable for a new show these days. For pure sci-f exploration into the human condition, character studies and beautiful cinematography though, I thought it was sublime. It's a shame these sorts of shows die as early as they do, I would have enjoyed more Caprica, Outcasts and to a lesser extent Defying Gravity too...
Saquist
Commodore
yeah...that's why it was canceled....because it was just fine...
That concept needed a rework. Maybe not a major overhaul but definitely a rework. They CLEARLY needed more to do than just fighting with themselves for the first year, they failed to do much exploring of the MASSIVE ship they were on, The stones were a flawed concept too to base so many stories on and absolutely betrayed the peril they were supposed to be in.
Those are the factors that killed the show and they were designed in. When the music montage is the height of the episode ...Houston we have problem.
Montages are supposed to be for the purpose of suspending and carrying forth the drama beyond words SGU sort of used them as...filler. I loved the way Smallville made them so cliche...almost one every 3 episodes because I like hearing new music with shows and films. But the choices in SGU were so...drab...and emo.
Again, no. The concept was fine. The execution was flawed. Know the difference.
Saquist
Commodore
I know the difference. The concept included them at each others throats as part of a military program. That's a flawed concept and they needed that because they had only themselves for the first year.
It's not believable. Modern military is very structured, this should have been a civilian vs military issue since they have very different ideas of structure but I think the creators believed this would have made the show TOO much like BSG which seemed to tackle those kind of issues. Look what that created. The unbelievable plot resolutions they need to bring them back to square one at the finale and continue business as usual over turned the stories realism.
So as far as I can see...definitely a concept problem.
