SW blu-rays have changes to the films again

[CorporalCaptain]

Re: ON NO, LUCAS DOES IT AGAIN! New Revision to STAR WARS!

Here it is-

Totally brilliant. The dodge is hilarious.

 

[Candlelight]

This talking point gets brought up quite a bit, but at least in the case of the first movie, there's a salt mine in Kansas that holds a master of it.

I've also heard that Spielberg also has a master of ANH. It might be difficult getting him to let go of his copy though...

There's also the copy of the Lost Cut (the original rough cut with 40% deleted or alternate footage, rumoured to only be available in black & white) which exists as 13 35mm reels in a film library (the name of which escapes me). Would love to see that.

 

[ichab]

The first reviews are in ....

It goes without saying that just because this is Star Wars, it doesn't mean that this set is going to be the best looking Blu-ray release of all time. So, temper your expectations. That said, we do expect a lot from George Lucas and THX when it comes to cutting edge home video technology. I'm happy, then, to report that, for the most part, these films look wonderful. Not all of them might be described as "reference quality," whatever that means—although Episode III probably qualifies—but the transfers/restorations the films have been given represent an exponential leap in picture refinement, integrity, and clarity from previous DVD releases. While watching The Complete Saga this weekend there were several instances where I felt compelled to rewind and just bask in how beautiful certain scenes look in high definition.

 

[Showdown]

Okay, I have no idea if the following is true or not. I found this while going through tvtropes.

Apparently the whole ordeal was due to changes demanded by the MPAA. The PG-13 rating was created after the original film, and when Lucas submitted the special edition cut to the MPAA he had to change the scene to avoid a PG-13 by not having Han shoot first. So at least one thing is not Lucas' fault, and this may explain the shirt.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDogShotFirst

click [ Film ] to see quote

Does anyone know if this is true or just a rumor floating around the net? BTW, I checked the wiki page, but there's no mention of this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first

There's also pictures of George wearing a "Han shot first" t-shirt

 

[TremblingBluStar]

Okay, I have no idea if the following is true or not. I found this while going through tvtropes.

Apparently the whole ordeal was due to changes demanded by the MPAA. The PG-13 rating was created after the original film, and when Lucas submitted the special edition cut to the MPAA he had to change the scene to avoid a PG-13 by not having Han shoot first. So at least one thing is not Lucas' fault, and this may explain the shirt.

Yeah. I don't believe it. First off, there would be far more than just that one source. Lucas would have explained this 15 years ago. I don't see him changing a film just to avoid a higher rating. Sith was PG-13, and that didn't seem to bother him.

Further, if Vader breaking someone's neck after torturing him and a bloody alien arm being cut off don't get you PG-13, Han shooting first won't. I don't think the ratings board cares what the motivation of a violent act in a film is, just that it occurred.

 

[Candlelight]

Okay, I have no idea if the following is true or not. I found this while going through tvtropes.

Apparently the whole ordeal was due to changes demanded by the MPAA. The PG-13 rating was created after the original film, and when Lucas submitted the special edition cut to the MPAA he had to change the scene to avoid a PG-13 by not having Han shoot first. So at least one thing is not Lucas' fault, and this may explain the shirt.

Yeah. I don't believe it. First off, there would be far more than just that one source. Lucas would have explained this 15 years ago. I don't see him changing a film just to avoid a higher rating. Sith was PG-13, and that didn't seem to bother him.

Further, if Vader breaking someone's neck after torturing him and a bloody alien arm being cut off don't get you PG-13, Han shooting first won't. I don't think the ratings board cares what the motivation of a violent act in a film is, just that it occurred.

The MPAA also couldn't understand what Vader was thinking when his killed the Emperor so the 'Nooooo' was added.

 

[Corran Horn]

There were definite changes to tone down the 'violence'. Blaster bolts hitting the Imperial troopers in the Death Star were slightly edited to remove the fiery impact of the bolts on their bodies.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Did they also edit all the scenes in ROTS where Yoda and Obi-Wan were slicing up clones right and left.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Did they also edit all the scenes in ROTS where Yoda and Obi-Wan were slicing up clones right and left.

Isn't ROTS PG-13?

 

[Candlelight]

I find it funny that in the original storyboard for A New Hope, when Vader is interrogating the Rebel (the one he eventually breaks the neck of), he was originally supposed to rip his arm off.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Vader is interrogating the Rebel (the one he eventually breaks the neck of)

And who is supposed to be Captain Antilles, isn't that right?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Yes.

 

[Dream]

Did they also edit all the scenes in ROTS where Yoda and Obi-Wan were slicing up clones right and left.

Why would they? The movie was rated PG-13.

 

[I am not Spock]

Got the Complete Saga today. So far, after checking out some of the discs, I'm pretty impressed. Sound and audio is great for all six movies. I enjoyed finally seeing the Tosche Station scene, after hearing about it for so many years. I like the CGI Yoda in TPM far better than that awful puppet in the theatrical release.

My only disappointment is that the deleted scenes from the prequels on the PT DVDs are not present on this release. Guess I'll be holding on to those SW DVDs I bought a few years ago, then.

This is the third time I've bought these films I got the special edition VHS tapes for Christmas in 1997. Still have them! I got the DVDs of all six films in 2006. I just got the Blu ray today, lol.

 

[Pingfah]

Further, if Vader breaking someone's neck after torturing him and a bloody alien arm being cut off don't get you PG-13, Han shooting first won't. I don't think the ratings board cares what the motivation of a violent act in a film is, just that it occurred.

I don't know about the MPAA, but for the BBFC motivation is extremely important. A violent act is assessed for its impact on the audience, which obviously is very much affected by how the audience percieves the motivation behind the act.

In fact i'd say any rating board that assesses simply on the act itself is pretty pointless.

 

[TremblingBluStar]

In fact i'd say any rating board that assesses simply on the act itself is pretty pointless.

Well, in the case of Han, the motivation was that his life was threatened and the person was pointing a gun at him.

I don't have any perfect examples, but I am sure there are countless films where there is a hostage situation and the hostage takers are shot performing the act.

Having said that, looking at some recent films that are PG-13 (like Iron Man) maybe Star Wars should be PG-13. In fact, I'm surprised that ESB wasn't given the rating as well, given the number of adult themes in that film (Han being tortured, Luke having his arm cut off, ect.).

I could see Lucas not wanting a theatrical release of these films being PG-13, but why would he care about the DVD's? How many 12 year-olds buy DVD box sets? Besides incredibly spoiled ones?

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Having said that, looking at some recent films that are PG-13 (like Iron Man) maybe Star Wars should be PG-13. In fact, I'm surprised that ESB wasn't given the rating as well, given the number of adult themes in that film (Han being tortured, Luke having his arm cut off, ect.).

The PG-13 rating was created in 1984, for Temple of Doom.

 

[I am not Spock]

So, in another forum, someone tells me that the dvd deleted scenes aren't included in the blu-ray sets?

Anyone with the set cares to confirm?

The deleted scenes are only included in the special 9-disc set containing both the OT and PT. You can buy the PT-only set, or the OT-only set, but those will not contain the deleted scenes.

The deleted scenes that were included in the 2 disc prequel releases are not included in this set.

There's some nice gems in there - not seen all yet - but the quality varies. Some are near mute or have the wrong voices.

Got my Complete Saga today. The actual HD transfer of the movies is great. They all look and sound superb. But I regret to inform that the PT deleted scenes, and the docos that were on the PT DVD sets are not on here. That's my biggest disappointment. So I'll be keeping my DVDs as well, then.

The deleted scenes from A New Hope are good to finally see, though. This was the first time I ever saw the famous Biggs and Tosche station scene.

 

[Sephiroth]

Having said that, looking at some recent films that are PG-13 (like Iron Man) maybe Star Wars should be PG-13. In fact, I'm surprised that ESB wasn't given the rating as well, given the number of adult themes in that film (Han being tortured, Luke having his arm cut off, ect.).

The PG-13 rating was created in 1984, for Temple of Doom.

I thought it was created for gremlins

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ I thought it was Red Dawn.