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SW blu-rays have changes to the films again

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I read from another board that on the Blu-Ray, the Mandarin audio track doesn't have Vader's NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and Obi-Wan's new Krayt Dragon scream. I guess if those changes really bother you that much, you can change audio tracks in for a short time to not have to listen to it and change them back to English when those scenes are over with. :rommie:
 
I just watched the video and it's corny as hell. Geez. Does he realize that the NOOOO moment in ROTS is the ultimate unintentional-comedy moment? Everyone mocks it. I guess it's poetic or something that we get an almost equally corny NOOOOO! at this moment :rolleyes:

It's like, piece by piece, George is constantly making the movies more annoying.

Honestly Empire was always my favorite anyways, and it seems to need the least changes (Kershner deserves credit for that I think). It might be the only one I get, if i get any.
 
Lucas doesn't like the original trilogy as they currently stand. It's hollywood's worst kept secret. The only thing he is truly happy with is the music.

If he could remake them he would, but he can't, so he's content to change what he's got to match what he wants in his head.

And we all suffer accordingly.
 
Several clips of the Blu-Ray have leaked out already online if you look hard enough. Many people have commented from places like hometheaterform.com and theforce.net boards that the new Blu-Ray have the same mistakes as the dvd.
You're going to have to help me out here. The only clips I can find seem to suggest the problems have been fixed, as has been reported in all the previews up until now.

Jedi lightsabers
A New Hope lightsabers

Am I missing something?

Specific links, screenshots or videos showing the faults would be appreciated, thanks.
 
Not to mention the most obvious reasons.. Lucas most likely wanted to "sanitize" Star Wars and make it more kid friendly and a hero who shoots some guy in cold blood just doesn't fit in there.

This is one thing I never understood. I always believed Han shot Greedo in SELF-DEFENSE in the first place! I mean, Greedo had a gun drawn aimed point-blank at Han! Han had every right IMHO to waste him when he got the chance (and did). Would anybody else have reacted differently to the same situation? Would anybody get prosecuted for something like this in real life?
 
It doesn't look "purely excellent" to me given that the CGI Jabba looks nothing like the "real Jabba" is way more mobile than "real Jabba" and, just looks obviously like CGI. Then the odd edit when Han walks "behind" Jabba just looks terrible. It looks like someone playing with colorforms.

It's amazing that these versions made in 1997 and then when the DVDs came out a few years later have such, well, sub-par CGI. Look at the CGI creature effects done in Jurassic park where live-action actors are mixed with CGI creatures (the Gallimimus scene comes to mind, and the scenes inviolving the CGI version of the T-Rex) and compare that to Jabba in ANH. It's just a huge contrast between the two, and both were done by ILM.

Granted the SE's pobably didn't have the same budget Jurassic Park did but at the same time it still had Lucas' own SFX studio (ILM) behind it and the potential to rank in large sums of cash with the Star Wars name. There's just no excuse for it looking like ass.

And, yeah, if you've ever seen how that scene was supposed to look it's Han talking to a fellow, human, rougish criminal and not a huge crime-lord. Hence the need for the "walking behind" manipulation in the original scene Han paces behind "Jabba."

Interestingly, in the NPR Radio Drama, it has Han talking to a guy who was another agent of Jabba who basically said all of the same general lines.
 
It doesn't look "purely excellent" to me given that the CGI Jabba looks nothing like the "real Jabba" is way more mobile than "real Jabba" and, just looks obviously like CGI. Then the odd edit when Han walks "behind" Jabba just looks terrible. It looks like someone playing with colorforms.

It's amazing that these versions made in 1997 and then when the DVDs came out a few years later have such, well, sub-par CGI. Look at the CGI creature effects done in Jurassic park where live-action actors are mixed with CGI creatures (the Gallimimus scene comes to mind, and the scenes inviolving the CGI version of the T-Rex) and compare that to Jabba in ANH. It's just a huge contrast between the two, and both were done by ILM.

Granted the SE's pobably didn't have the same budget Jurassic Park did but at the same time it still had Lucas' own SFX studio (ILM) behind it and the potential to rank in large sums of cash with the Star Wars name. There's just no excuse for it looking like ass.

And, yeah, if you've ever seen how that scene was supposed to look it's Han talking to a fellow, human, rougish criminal and not a huge crime-lord. Hence the need for the "walking behind" manipulation in the original scene Han paces behind "Jabba."

Interestingly, in the NPR Radio Drama, it has Han talking to a guy who was another agent of Jabba who basically said all of the same general lines.

The character's name was Heater in the radio drama.

As I recall, Han/Greedo was the very last scene to be added to the ANH screenplay. Once it was realized they couldn't do the Jabba scene, this was added in. That's why the scenes share dialogue, namely the reference about Han "dropping his shipment at the first sign of an Imperial patrol."
 
The Special Edition that was released in theaters was the best version. I had no problems whatsoever with it. But sadly, I can't even get that version on DVD or bluray.
 
Lucas doesn't like the original trilogy as they currently stand.

That explains why he's acting like he's Old George Lucas, insanely jealous of this other guy named Young George Lucas (or more properly, Young George Lucas with Crucial Adult Supervision), who made great Star Wars movies that OGL doesn't have a clue how to imitate. So he's gotten his paws on the movies of YGLwCAS and he's destroying them to match the quality of his shit movies.

There's a great Jeckyl & Hyde sci fi parody in there somewhere...
 
The Special Edition that was released in theaters was the best version. I had no problems whatsoever with it. But sadly, I can't even get that version on DVD or bluray.

The differences between the SE released in the late 90s and the versions released on DVD are negligible and still have all of the same major flaws. (Namely CGI Jabba and "Greedo shooting first" not to mention "Jedi Rocks" and heaps of added CGI bullshit.)
 
Lucas doesn't like the original trilogy as they currently stand.

That explains why he's acting like he's Old George Lucas, insanely jealous of this other guy named Young George Lucas (or more properly, Young George Lucas with Crucial Adult Supervision), who made great Star Wars movies that OGL doesn't have a clue how to imitate. So he's gotten his paws on the movies of YGLwCAS and he's destroying them to match the quality of his shit movies.

There's a great Jeckyl & Hyde sci fi parody in there somewhere...

:techman:.
 
In the old Star Wars Marvel comic adaptation, Jabba is an alien, but a totally different one.

Yeah, "From Star Wars to Jedi" showed the original storyboard. I think the idea was to 'paste' some bipedal alien on top of the actor they used. They cut the scene so that work was never done. I'll have to find my tape and see if I'm remembering it correctly. The ANH-Jabba was never supposed to be slug-Jabba though. That came from RotJ when he was re-designed.
 
Puppet-controlled-by-midgets Jabba from ROTJ is lightyears better than any of the CHI versions SE or Prequels. He's there, he's fucking huge and intimidating and slimy and awesome. The CGI versions all look like rejects cut and pasted from some shitty modern Saturday morning cartoon that can't be assed to actually draw something well and instead used some third string animation company to render the crap (I'm looking at you super-CGI remakes of He-man, GI Joe and Transformers).

Either cut the fucking scene (My first choice!) or edit the dialogue so Han could be talking to anyone other than Jabba. Fuck, make him talk to Boba Fett. As much as I hate the new Kiwi accent Lucas used to erase the epically-badass original raspy Fett, I'd take more of that over the CGI monstrosity they've got going now, and he could lose the ridiculous Han-hop, to boot.
 
The good thing about the Jabba scene in the SE is that the entire thing can be ignored if you hit the skip button on your remote. Not that difficult to ignore its existence. :rommie:
 
I watched the new cut of Star Wars over the weekend and the Greedo scene has been changed again. This time you mostly see a big a big cloud of smoke when they shoot and Han walks away as the dust settles so it's a little more ambiguous.

I noticed a few other changes but I don't know if they were already out in the 2004 releases. The fast opening and closing of doors on the Death Star have really been smoothed out and parts of the dual between Vader and Obi-Wan have been sped up. And of course Obi-Wan's howl is different now too.
 
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