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Susan Foreman is returning! - Big Finish

Well, the fourth Doctor was probably there, per The Invasion of Time, and I believe that one of the comics had the seventh Doctor, Ace, and Benny there as well...
 
like the problem needs making any worse by the inclusion of the comics

that said its very possible that the Doctors fans & history have mixed up which Doctor did what, so YES the Doctor was on the Titanic, but not the 9th Doctor, Clive just thinks it was the 9th Doctor
 
Well, that would mean that Nine hadn't looked at a mirror during his adventure which saw him fall off the Titanic and tread water that he was still bitching about in the nupilot.

Number Nine wasn't the one that "clung to an iceberg that wasn't half-cold", since he's the one that warned a family away from boarding the ship. Now, you could argue he then did so himself (after taking a picture with them
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), but at face-value that wouldn't make a lot of sense. But, I guess you could assume either way.

You'd have to wonder about the "evidence" shown by the portly net fanatic (Clive?) about 9's travels he showed to Rose,how many of those adventures did Rose actually end up being on if this was so fresh into his new regeneration?
Could be none of them, as he left at the end of Rose (could have been gone for how long?) before popping back and picking her up with the time-travel line. That's the most plausible way to look at it, just as it is he had only recently regenerated at the beginning of the episode. Not only does the ending-trip give the 9th Doctor a wider area of unseen time to delve into (without the mortal Rose), but it would explain it all a lot better than he just hadn't seen his reflection yet (which was always bizarre to me than anyone would come to that conclusion).

Unless of course, there was more than one regeneration wandering around the events of the Titanic, that 8 could have fallen off the side and "later" nine could have warned that family not to take the ship to the new world?
Exactly. Not counting any outside alt-media (audios, books, comics, Allyn Gibson*, etc.) I believe earlier Doctors have mentioned involvement with the Titanic (I can't be certain, because the only one I remember off-hand is Tom Baker pilot episode dialogue with Harry about the word "unsinkable"), but I seem to believe Pertwee of Troughton had remarked about it. Even if not, then certainly Number Eight's open-ended lifespan (quite possibly, all totaled, the most epic of regenerations) could well encapsulate the scenario you suggest. Makes more sense than Nine stopping the family AND boarding (unless it was to save them from a monster onboard the ship...it would seem like a tack-on idea of an episode, but would fill the plothole if neccessary).

Yeah, I'm just rambling, I know... ;) :lol:



*(Just joking, Allyn! :angel: :techman: )
 
The 9th's reaction in "Rose" was that he recently regenerated. Either that or he hadn't bothered looking in the mirror for a while.

As for the picture's Clive had, how do we know that the 9th didn't go off and have those adventures in the time after he left but before he came back and asked Rose to come with him?

On the Susan topic, the end of the "Forgotten" comic had a touching "reunion" between her and the Doctor.
 
its possible Rose planted those pictures for herself, as the Bad Wolf.

After all Bad Wolf can normally be used to explain away any plot hole in S1.
 
It's also possible that Rose was with the Doctor already but just not caught on camera...
 
its possible Rose planted those pictures for herself, as the Bad Wolf.

After all Bad Wolf can normally be used to explain away any plot hole in S1.

Why did she choose the name "Bad Wolf" anyways? Was it her way of warning the Doctor when they finally encountered the "Bad Wolf Corporation" or something?
 
no it was a reminder to her self, that she is linked to the Doctor (seemed kind dumb)

is that a Dalek in your avatar?
 
I took Bad Wolf to be a self fulfilling cyclical prophesy. Rose chase to scatter it through time because they'd seen it across their travels, but they'd only seen it because Rose scattered it through time...etc etc etc...I have a headache now!
 
Regarding the Torchwood files, why would they not have the 11th, 12th and 13th doctor on record, surly those incarnations of the doctor will be visiting earth at different times, that from Earth's perspective would be recorded...hmm. Ethier there is not 11,12 or 13th doctor (doubtfull), he does not visit Earth (very doubtfull) or Earths history revolves around and changes with the Doctors personal history...
 
It's also possible that Rose was with the Doctor already but just not caught on camera...

As with the Time War/Daleks/Cyberman/Ninth/Eight Doctor stuff arising from The Next Doctor, I take the reasonable position that this is the case.

The theory of pre-Rose adventures for Nine? Don't buy it. The theory he went off travelling and came back for her? Don't buy it even more.

Aside from being, IMO, implausible, the Ninth Doctor could never have landed the TARDIS with such precision when he went back for Rose.
 
The modern Doctor seems to have much better control over the TARDIS than the older Doctors. Guess they have to so that their companion can go visit their mum every other bloody week! :lol:
 
Regarding the Torchwood files, why would they not have the 11th, 12th and 13th doctor on record, surly those incarnations of the doctor will be visiting earth at different times, that from Earth's perspective would be recorded...hmm. Either there is not 11,12 or 13th doctor (doubtfull), he does not visit Earth (very doubtful) or Earths history revolves around and changes with the Doctors personal history...

How would Torchwood know which was which? Sure UNIT's files on the Omega Incident would most likely be able to nail who was One, two, Three and four but the 9 after that would be higglyty pigglyty that we can't be sure that the brigider hasn't met up with 10 - 13 at any point easily up to Maydren Undead, or more difficultily before that.
 
The modern Doctor seems to have much better control over the TARDIS than the older Doctors. Guess they have to so that their companion can go visit their mum every other bloody week! :lol:
that or he has just gotten good at it, after all these years, im sure he had to do some quite skilled piloting in the Time War, maybe he repaired whatever it was that kept him going on the wrong direction.
 
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