Survivor: Redemption Island Discussion (Spoilers)
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Hmm, Kristina Kochoff has a Trek connection...
I like her, and I always root for whoever has a target on their back, and that is certainly her for now.
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I like her, and I always root for whoever has a target on their back, and that is certainly her for now.
I have a hard time believing that, unless he was one of those guys who got way too invested in the job and snapped. He didn't seem capable of reading people's reactions to him at all despite being a self-described expert at it, and he made himself a huge target and a distrustful person at tribal. Maybe he'll come off better later, but he didn't make a great impression in the first day. Entertaining as hell, though.
That's why I think Gollum is way overrated. He's all talk, and when it gets down to it he just does the same self-destructive once you reach the endgame strategy over and over again.
Sorry, I waited until after the show aired and partly into the next day before starting the thread.
The full episode is up on CBS.com. Scroll down to Survivor in the left panel (or in the pull-down menu) and then click Full Episode at the top.I'll have to watch this OnDemand or something because I forgot to record it and because CBS sucks it's impossible to just to a "series recording" with Survivor since every damn season is named something different.
Eww, not again. As much as I dislike Gollum, bringing back Hagrid would be the worst.
Heh, good find. Now I'm just going to picture this every time I see her, though:
Apparently, at least the DIA.
No need to guess (IMHO) why he's "former."
Good Lord, what a tool. He's got the biggest self-donned target vest I've ever seen anyone make.
Best first episode of a season EVAR.
No worries. If I was going to do it I would've started the thread a couple of days ago but I just wasn't going to deal with it this go-around as my interest in Survivor gets less and less every year but, much like cooking alcohol out of food, you can never completely be rid of it so I'm still interested enough in it to watch it, occasionally, this season but I'm about done with this show and likely won't watch it beyond the end of Probst's tenure as host. (Is that this season or next?)
What was that lame excuse he used for constantly mispronouncing Frankenstein's name? That he had chronic dry mouth? That apparently only affects the pronunciation of one name, and lets him speak normally the rest of the time?
That guy's hilarious without even getting into the fuchsia banana hammock underwear he was parading around in.
Yeah, I thought he said this season would be his last, but don't quote me on that. I'm hoping it's just a negotiating tactic and he'll be swayed back by a better contract, because his interaction with the players (especially at tribal) is one of the high points of the show.
Someone could take it over and do an equal or better job, but it's a hard sell for a lot of people.
I remember at some point Probst got somewhat "edgier' and "meaner" as host, especially at TC, and that's when he pretty much became a great host. I wouldn't blame him for wanting to get out of it though the guy has been living in pretty rough conditions (while the host and crew get better accommodations than the cast of survivors, they're still not greatly better as depending on where the show is there's not likely any available in reasonable distance) for a measurable part of the last 10 years, so he's probably anxious to just stay in the same place for a full year without being flown out to the ass-end of the world for a month at a time.
Yeah, I can't pinpoint exactly where the transition happened, but there was a point at least halfway through the span of Survivor where he went from more passive questioner to actively trying to provoke a reaction from people or turn various factions against each other at Tribal. I could understand the argument from some that the host is not really supposed to influence the game play, but it definitely makes things more entertaining and dramatic. Plus, it introduces a new element where you have to be more careful and guarded in how you respond to his questions lest you inadvertently wind up on the chopping block.
I think it would be awesome if it turned out Phillip was never a secret agent and that he was just a crazy fucking homeless person they got off the street.
Seriously that would be a great idea for Survivor to increase tension... Just plop some crazy person onto the island... Everyone has to sign waivers to play the game so they can probably be safe from lawsuits.
BTW, how pussified has Survivor gotten from S1 till now? Remember how S1 was actually about survival from elements and trying to find food to stay alive, make a shelter out of nothing, etc... They've giving them friggin tools and nails and crap now? Are you kidding me? They introduced immunity idols many seasons ago to give players a better chance of staying alive and now they're actually giving them a 'second chance' on redemption island.
Seriously that would be a great idea for Survivor to increase tension... Just plop some crazy person onto the island... Everyone has to sign waivers to play the game so they can probably be safe from lawsuits.
BTW, how pussified has Survivor gotten from S1 till now? Remember how S1 was actually about survival from elements and trying to find food to stay alive, make a shelter out of nothing, etc... They've giving them friggin tools and nails and crap now? Are you kidding me? They introduced immunity idols many seasons ago to give players a better chance of staying alive and now they're actually giving them a 'second chance' on redemption island.
Do you think that might be a least partially because of the presence of the "stars" of Survivor? (Rob and Russell) I guess I can see them making some demands about creature comforts to reappear on the show. But the producers can't openly single them out, so by default everybody on the show benefits.
They were given a lot of building equipment during the first All-Stars season. I remember Boston Rob being very useful back then.
What a fun first episode and the tribal with Philip dry mouth federal agent going bananas was hilarious 
. Anyway i kind of felt sorry for Kristina and Fran at tribal. They didn't have a chance agnist Boston Rob. Their plan just didn't work because they didn't have the numbers. Also i dont understand why Kristina targeted Boston Rob so early. They needed his strength for the challenges. She should have played it cool and tried to play the mom role with the young girls instead of wasting her time with Fran who was Boston Rob number one target from the start. Philip is unstable so why go there.
ps, i will give her a lot of kudos for not playing the idol so she is save for next tribal.
. Anyway i kind of felt sorry for Kristina and Fran at tribal. They didn't have a chance agnist Boston Rob. Their plan just didn't work because they didn't have the numbers. Also i dont understand why Kristina targeted Boston Rob so early. They needed his strength for the challenges. She should have played it cool and tried to play the mom role with the young girls instead of wasting her time with Fran who was Boston Rob number one target from the start. Philip is unstable so why go there. ps, i will give her a lot of kudos for not playing the idol so she is save for next tribal.
Kristina was in trouble the moment Rob saw her searching through the tool box imo, and I think she's smart enough to know that, she didn't have any other choice but to target him after that.
Just watched it on CBS.com. That was an epic tribal council.
I agree that it was stupid to target Rob right away, at least without doing a better job of trying to get more than two other people on your side. Rob knew going in that he'd be targeted and quickly nipped it in the bud. Now Kristina's partner is gone, and Phillip has likely flipped over to Rob (or he's going to try and break apart Rob's group, but I doubt he'd succeed). My guess is Rob and his group will go after Phillip next, since Kristina (wisely) kept her immunity idol, but a lot can change from episode to episode.
I agree that it was stupid to target Rob right away, at least without doing a better job of trying to get more than two other people on your side. Rob knew going in that he'd be targeted and quickly nipped it in the bud. Now Kristina's partner is gone, and Phillip has likely flipped over to Rob (or he's going to try and break apart Rob's group, but I doubt he'd succeed). My guess is Rob and his group will go after Phillip next, since Kristina (wisely) kept her immunity idol, but a lot can change from episode to episode.
Oh I'm sure that's a big part of the reason for it. I hadn't been paying attention to the last season of Survivor so I didn't even know Rob & Russell were on this season until I saw the tv guide cover at the store like two weeks ago. So then I googled it and saw they were both going to be on different tribes and I wondered how they could be kept in the game? I'd want to get rid of either of them pretty early just because of how good they are at playing the game and manipulating people.
Rob is more of a benefit to his tribe than Russell when it comes to challenges and helping to win, but Russell I could almost see some people wanting to keep him around to be the 'lightning rod' for the final vote. Both are sneaky in their own ways so when I saw the Producers say "they have no special protection in the game" *WINK WINK* but this season we have this redemption island '2nd chance' scenario... Well you can see they view it as a way to keep them around.
If one of them is voted off they end up there and I would assume the 'duel' then takes place in the next week's episode so that gives them at least one extra week of tv-time with one of them and if they manage to win they stay on redemption island and in the show.
Yeah, it's pretty clear that Redemption Island was designed specifically with Rob and Russell in mind.
As for Kristina targeting Rob: I get the sense that she was just looking to make a name for herself as the woman who got rid of Boston Rob. It seemed more important to her than winning.
As for Kristina targeting Rob: I get the sense that she was just looking to make a name for herself as the woman who got rid of Boston Rob. It seemed more important to her than winning.
Yeah, while I was impressed by her initiative in finding the idol so quickly, she seemed a little too eager to make a Big Move right away. Why not sit back and see how things shake out a little before trying to use the idol to take out Rob the first chance she got?
I've never understood why when people get the idol one of the very fist things they do is run off and tell someone.
I've never understood why when people get the idol one of the very fist things they do is run off and tell someone.
I know!
I suspect that it's simply hard to appreciate just how boring it gets being stuck on a beach with the same people 24/7. People probably run out of things to talk about very quickly . . . . and can't resist bragging about the idol just to have something to chat about!
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