Survivor 44

[Bea Jonas]

We are not being "provided" with information by either the contestants or anyone connected to them..

Apology? I'm not the one dropping F-bombs. Get over yourself (or at least take your meds).

Earlier in this very thread, DarrenTR1970 provided information on a contestant (the spouse of his boss) from a season of Survivor that hasn't even aired yet.

That's the kind of privileged information which cause a cast member to forfeit any money earned.

 

[Timewalker]

Apology? I'm not the one dropping F-bombs. Get over yourself (or at least take your meds).

Earlier in this very thread, DarrenTR1970 provided information on a contestant (the spouse of his boss) from a season of Survivor that hasn't even aired yet.

That's the kind of privileged information which cause a cast member to forfeit any money earned.

I will remind you that you posted this:

Survivor contestants are required to sign an NDA before they join the show. I certainly hope the information they (or their spouse) are providing you doesn't end up costing them big bucks.

in response to this post I made:

Dunno, but she's in the final 5 now.

You did not quote DarrenTR1970. You quoted ME. You accused ME of having insider information, apparently based on my statement that Carolyn is in the final 5 - something that anyone with rudimentary arithmetic skills could figure out.

I think I'm justified in being angry about this, and I am justified in telling you that an apology would be appropriate. I haven't posted insider information. If you want to accuse someone, accuse the person who actually did post it and leave the rest of us out of it.

As for what he posted... re-read my post. Understand that I am not talking about the same season that DarrenTR1970 is talking about. They are two entirely separate and unconnected seasons.

We start a new thread for every season and show, unless two of them happen to be airing at the same time. So the only way there would be repercussions for that contestant in the unaired season is if YOU blow the whistle on her - which would be a really petty thing to do, in my opinion. It's not like he revealed any information about the challenges or placements of anyone. The amount of money contestants get is of general interest.

So yeah, an apology is still the appropriate thing to do. You messed up. Own it.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

If contestants get $1000 every time they use their interviews, it follows that Carolyn got a large payoff whether or not she won, because she gets a lot of interviews. That's just math.

 

[Timewalker]

Exactly. I suppose I could go through the episodes and count them, though it would take longer than I really have time to do (I've got my PVR set to record every week in case I can't watch at the time it's on). But yeah, she's had a lot of her interviews included. Of course we don't know how long they really take, as they'd be pared down to the points that fit whatever narrative the showrunners want to present for that episode.

 

[Timewalker]

Well, that was somewhat predictable in the end result. I'm not happy with who won.

So this was the first Carolyn knew that Carson is with NASA? I guess he didn't mention it because he didn't want anyone to think he was dangerously smart.

 

[DigificWriter]

I currently feel the same way about Season 44 that I did after I watched Kaoh Rong for the very first time: the season itself was excellent, but the outcome was disappointing.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I'm pretty happy with who won. He didn't seem like a good player at the start, but his ability to make social connections and control the vote is the purest of Survivor skills. Though I was pulling heavily for Carson.

Also I gained a lot of respect for him as a person when he taught Carson how to start the fire, thinking that he would be put against him.

 

[DigificWriter]

The main reason I'm disappointed in the outcome is that a lot of the Jury members claimed to respect Carolyn's game (which was objectively better than either Jam Jam or Heidi's) but didn't back up their words with actions.

Even if they were ultimately going to award the victory to Jam Jam, Carolyn's game and the Jury's behavior, questions, and comments about and for her indicated that she should've received at least some votes, and it's therefore disappointing that she was blanked.

 

[Timewalker]

I'm pretty happy with who won. He didn't seem like a good player at the start, but his ability to make social connections and control the vote is the purest of Survivor skills. Though I was pulling heavily for Carson.

Also I gained a lot of respect for him as a person when he taught Carson how to start the fire, thinking that he would be put against him.

I'll admit that it was sporting of Yam-Yam to do this, giving an opponent a fighting chance to make a good showing. There was one season when the firemaking challenge went on forever, as they were reduced to using matches and still couldn't do it.

It was very strategic of Heidi to sideline Carolyn and Yam-Yam from the firemaking. She chose to pit herself against the least-skilled person (Carson) to earn a last bit of strategy cred in front of the jury. And it worked enough to get her a 2nd-place finish (the 2nd place finisher gets $100k, if this season is like the others).

The main reason I'm disappointed in the outcome is that a lot of the Jury members claimed to respect Carolyn's game (which was objectively better than either Jam Jam or Heidi's) but didn't back up their words with actions.

Even if they were ultimately going to award the victory to Jam Jam, Carolyn's game and the Jury's behavior, questions, and comments about and for her indicated that she should've received at least some votes, and it's therefore disappointing that she was blanked.

Agreed. The thing is, she wasn't able to articulate her game and her moves as well as Yam-Yam articulated his, and I guess the jury was swayed by all that "twinkling eyes" blather. There were some things she should have emphasized more, but as she was on an emotional rollercoaster at that point, some of these points got buried. It's not that she did a bad job of it, but she could have done a better job.

But yeah, she should have gotten some votes. FFS, she had a better game than Heidi, and even just two votes would have been enough for 2nd place. I'm surprised that Frannie and Carson didn't vote for her (I guess that oh-so-generous firemaking tutorial helped sway Carson).

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Yam Yam explained his game the best and did way more than Gabler.

 

[Timewalker]

Not sure how Gabler is relevant this season. But in general, it's true that some seasons' winners really didn't do as much to earn their win as others did.

But if they ever have a season with previous winners and runners-up, it would be interesting to see how well Yam-Yam would do against Gabler.


I just had an idea - I would love to see Carolyn and Carson, and Matt and Frannie on The Amazing Race.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I would not be shocked in the least if Matt and Frannie appeared on the Amazing Race in the next two years.

Looks like Big Brother and Challenge USA aren't starting until August, a month later than usual. I wonder why. That also implies Survivor 45 doesn't start until November, unless there's going to be way more overlap than usual.

 

[Timewalker]

Doesn't Big Brother usually start sometime in June, so it runs in July, August, and finishes in early September?

Not starting until August doesn't give them as much summer, though I suppose there's not much seasonal difference in southern California to notice.

Is there some major sporting or political event happening in the U.S. this summer that could disrupt CBS' schedule?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I don't think so. Usually Survivor starts the week Big Brother ends, I can't imagine any reason they'd push everything back a month. Lately Big Brother has started early to mid July.

 

[Timewalker]

That's the problem with staying home these past 3 years. Time runs together, so I'm aware of the passing seasons, but unless something I want to watch is on TV, I don't usually pay attention to what day of the week it is. Next thing I know, a couple of months have gone by and I hardly notice them.

I've just realized that it's going to be months before I have anything to do on Wednesdays now, unless there's something good on PBS or BBC Earth.

There is one thing that might be beneficial. I enter Camp NaNoWriMo twice a year, in April and July. With nothing much on TV, I won't need to worry about missing the show due to writing, or not getting my daily writing done due to the show. So that works.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

By the way, did anyone else notice that the chess board had one piece taken off every time somebody was voted off? I didn't notice until the last episode, the number of pieces still on the board was always the same as number of remaining castaways.

 

[Timewalker]

I noticed something was different, but didn't pin it down to that detail.

I did notice that one or two people swatted at the pieces in annoyance, like they were in the way.