Superman

[Guy Gardener]

How would they themselves know until one dies of natural causes? And there’s only Kal and Kara, right?

(From memory.)

There's maybe Millions of them in the bottle city of Kandor, under a red son, in the Fortress, rescued from Brainiac.

Sometimes Argo City is still around.

General Zod, and however many people he has in tow.

Jor-El showed up recently and turned out to be a real Scumbag.

Mon-El, in the Legion of Super Heroes, used to be Kryptonian in the 70s.

Krypto, Beppo and some of the other Super pets are technically Kryptonian.

Laurel Kent looks like a teen in the 31st century, but her mother was Lois Lane.

Christopher Kent was Zod's kid that Clark adopted.

 

[Mike Farley]

Laurel Kent was a robot.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Also, Mon-El wasn't Kryptonian in the 70s. Superboy mistook him for a Kryptonian in his first appearance in Superboy #89, and because he arrived on Earth with amnesia, Mon-El thought he was, too. But the same story showed him to be immune to Kryptonite but vulnerable to lead, which revealed him to be a Daxamite.

The most recent reboot of the Legion of Super-Heroes, though, has him as coming from New Krypton (the version founded by General Zod during the Rebirth era). If I remember correctly, this version is actually descendant from both House El and House Zod.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Laurel Kent was a robot.

"sigh"

That's a Post Crisis amendment.

 

[plynch]

The Kandorians aren’t under a yellow sun like Suoes and Kara. That’s kind of what I want to know, their mortality on earth. And no way to know that until one dies, and even then you’d only have one data point.

No biggie. As to lifespan on Krypton, that would be in a crystal Marlon Brando gave Chris, yes? I would think that would be pretty knowable to our orphans.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

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[plynch]

Wonderful, thank you.

Peak Williams

 

[ichab]

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Please please please bring this score back for future movies. It's just not the same for me without it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Kandorians aren’t under a yellow sun like Suoes and Kara. That’s kind of what I want to know, their mortality on earth. And no way to know that until one dies, and even then you’d only have one data point.

No biggie. As to lifespan on Krypton, that would be in a crystal Marlon Brando gave Chris, yes? I would think that would be pretty knowable to our orphans.

Have you read Dark Knight Returns 3?

The Kandorians got out.

And they were enbiggened.

An indestructible suicide cult, hellbent on taking over the Earth, who radicalize Superman and Wonder Woman's kid in about 12 seconds because she didn't think so much of Man's world world in the first place anyways.

 

[Skipper]

Question for comics experts:

recently I read a collection of Superman stories drawn by the great Garcia Lopez and there was this beautiful rendered page:

and it raised the question: how would you define Superman and Lois in the Pre-Crisis Era? Were they a thing? Were they just eternally dating? Were they friends with benefits? Did they consider themselves exclusive?

Because they even broke up

But broke up from what exactly?

 

[Guy Gardener]

I was always confused by Clark doing TV.

Was he in love with Lana now?

 

[Dee1891]

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I'm just not into the nostalgia factory. Sorry. And even though I think it's the best Superman theme, I also enjoyed Hans Zimmer's Superman theme as well. But I wouldn't advise using that score, because . . . again, nostalgia factor. They should just find a composer to create another theme.

 

[Skipper]

I was always confused by Clark doing TV.

Was he in love with Lana now?

After the broke up, he began a serious relationship with Lana. This is where it started

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

We have a shoe store here called Lana Lang shoes

https://lanalang.com.au/

 

[JoeZhang]

After the broke up, he began a serious relationship with Lana. This is where it started

There is a great two issue Lois Lane series which comes out at this period that covers this (Clark is in it but Superman isn't) - the art is fantastic and it's more like a European comic than the standard DC comics of the time. Interestingly Lois in it is very similar to the John Byrne version that we get in the Post-Crisis era.

 

[Ovation]

After the broke up, he began a serious relationship with Lana. This is where it started

But this is in the preceding issue of the break up with Lois. Kinda makes Clark/Kal look Silver Age dickishly bad.

 

[Skipper]

But this is in the preceding issue of the break up with Lois. Kinda makes Clark/Kal look Silver Age dickishly bad.

Yep!

 

[Sci]

I'm just not into the nostalgia factory. Sorry. And even though I think it's the best Superman theme, I also enjoyed Hans Zimmer's Superman theme as well. But I wouldn't advise using that score, because . . . again, nostalgia factor. They should just find a composer to create another theme.

I tend to be a bit skeptical of nostalgia, but to me the John Williams "Superman Theme" isn't really nostalgia -- it just is part of Superman. Same as the costume. Same way the opening notes from the original Star Trek theme aren't nostalgia, there's just part of Star Trek. Or how the opening theme or Force theme for Star Wars aren't nostalgia for the 1977 film, they're just an integral part of Star Wars.

 

[Dee1891]

I'm sorry, but I don't agree. I mean, even Superman's costume has changed, thanks to Zack Snyder. I don't see a need to cling to Williams' score, especially since the only production that continued the 1978 Superman arc was Bryan Singer's 2006 movie, "Superman Returns". I can understand using Williams' score in that film. But any other version of Superman . . . no. Warner Bros should just continue moving on with a new score, now that they have sacked Henry Cavill.

The reason to keep using Williams' score in the Star Wars franchise is that all of the movies and television shows are part of the same universe. The same goes for Star Trek. In regard to the Superman movies and TV shows, it's not the case. Like I said, the only production that is part of the Superman 1978-1987 universe is the 2006 film.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

From the director of Shazam when asked why he didn't use the newer Man of Steel theme in Shazam:

"It’s a great theme that pumps you up but my thinking was it’s not as recognizable for as many people as Williams. Especially when you just play so few notes of it. If it had been a proper scene with Superman showing up to fight it would have been kick ass with Zimmer."

I'm pretty well versed in comic movies and stuff and even I couldn't hum you the MoS theme. Zimmer rarely does something super catchy. Every once in awhile, sure, but that's the exception and not the norm with him.