Superman

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  1. M'rk son of Mogh

    M'rk son of Mogh Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    From everything I've read, this was never figured out. It was going to be a "when we get to it" sort of thing, and the original team never had a chance to get to it and really think about it.

    I mostly want to know what the initial plan (when 1 and 2 were both one movie and the time reversal only happened in part 2) if they were going to not even have the Lois dying thing in there. Which is a shame, that Superman yell is just epic in all of the emotion in there.
     
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  2. Skipper

    Skipper Commodore Commodore

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    Another my curiosity is how was the original treatment by Puzo. From what I read almost nothing remained in the final script.
     
  3. Unicron

    Unicron Boss Monster Mod Moderator

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    YouTube is so rewarding. :rommie:

     
  4. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    My One True Superman is a composite of Christopher Reeve’s Superman, George Reeves’ Clark Kent, Curt Swan’s illustrations, Shuster and Siegel’s more social crusader Superman, and the Fleschier animated version.
     
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  5. Sci

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    Bob Chipman's analysis of the 1978 film is really good.

     
  6. Kai "the spy"

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    Dan Murrell concludes Superman Month on his Schmoedown podcast All My Movies with Man of Steel:
     
  7. publiusr

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  8. N-121973

    N-121973 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Superman saves Lois from the crack in the road she falls into and Lois - indicating the wrecked hire car - says something like: 'Flip for who takes the car back to Avis.'. I believe that was from an interview with Tom Mankiewicz. Of course he also flies the villains to prison and then flies into space and smiles at the camera ;). Then the camera pans up into space and we see the rocket explode freeing Zod and the others and the last shot is a close up of Zod shrieking 'Freee!'
     
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  9. cooleddie74

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    Is Superman: The Movie that good? It's better than even that.

    Sometimes - occasionally - your nostalgia is right.
     
  10. Skipper

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    The first Reeve movie is a mixed bag - the success of the thing hangs totally on his performance.
     
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  12. The Realist

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    It's as perfect a pop movie as has ever been made.
     
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  13. publiusr

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    The late 70’s...what a time to be a child
     
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  14. plynch

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    That Supe 1 original ending sounds bad on its own. Then compared to what we got, it's even worse.

    What we got is super touching: torn up by grief, he's willing to turn back time for himself and Lois. I really think it's one of the best movies ever.

    Just watched the Donner cut of II -- better for sure than Lester, still a bit too jokey imho; and the turning back time seems almost overkill, though it's ostensibly more.altruistic, to spare Lois's pain.
     
  15. The Realist

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    Pretty nice little video here:

     
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  16. Sci

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    Having just watched the pilot for Superman & Lois, I'm pretty impressed by Tyler Hoechlin's version of the character. His performance combines a fairly realistic emotional journey of feeling overwhelmed by family responsibilities and failing to bond properly with your children, with the more old-fashioned, aspirational wholesome, loving Superman of the Reeve movies. (Though he is absolutely not old enough to have 14-year-old sons and a life of adult accomplishment before their births.)
     
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  17. Tosk

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    He ages slower than humans. Starting post-puberty though, I guess.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    When was Donner fired?

    I watched the Donner cut of 2 a week ago.

    He spun around the earth and turned back time.

    So?

    Obviously if Donner hadn't lost control, this is where he wanted to use/do the time travel... So there's no Time Travel at the end of the first movie had he kept control?
     
  19. theenglish

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    Right, and there is no Eiffel Tower in the second movie. Presumably Lois would have been rescued in the nick of time at the end of the first movie.
     
  20. Sci

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    I mean, I can suspend my disbelief, but the fact that Hoechlin is only 33 is pretty noticeable...

    It's a little hard to believe that Elizabeth Tulloch's Lois is old enough to have been a successful reporter for years before meeting Clark and have fallen for him, married him, and given birth to 14-year-old boys, too. It's a little easier to buy because she's 40 and thus her character would have been 26 when the boys were born, but even then we're taking about a character who would have been out of college for only four years by then.