News Superman & Lois Ordered to Series at The CW

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  1. The Realist

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    Did not know (or remember) that, so thanks. I read Last Son of Krypton years ago, but have unfortunately never gotten around to Miracle Monday. I recently purchased Maggin's reissues of both books, however (as well as his short story collection, An Enemy's Gift, containing a couple of Luthor and Krypto tales), so maybe I'll catch up sometime soon.
     
  2. TREK_GOD_1

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    Once again, you seem to have missed the threat Zod posed. There was no time for debate or some non-violent solution.

    Then you've just trapped yourself, since post-1970 Superman has killed.

    Now we're getting down to it: for anyone to ever say history is "useless" speaks volumes, and--for example--if DC writers such as Frank Robbins and Denny O'Neill thought as you do, then Batman would not have been restored to his great dark beginnings, and remained some goofy, watered down sometimes "detective" the readers made clear was quite idiotic and not to their liking. The rest is history in how late 60s Batman returned to the tone and characterization of his early years.

    Nonsense. Moreover, if anyone actually read the first few years of Superman's published appearances, they would know just how violent he was, and divorced from the outlier / silly half of the Golden Age/Silver Age which had to be jettisoned in order to lift the character out of a state of irrelevancy.

    He was not a Daddy, savior, angel, middle-aged uncle or camp counselor. Those who believe that are living for the worst years of the character where endless "Will he marry Lois / vs. circus strongmen / loses his powers / vs. tricksters, aliens, etc." pablum disguised as plots made the character pointless and repetitive.

    True, but that does not matter to those who ignore history in favor of the Pollyanna-ish version of the character that came to define comics as wholly silly, disposable kiddie fare.
     
  3. Jayson1

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    Maybe the question shouldn't be has he killed but should he kill on this show? Show seems to be more grounded in real life from what I gather from the adds and what they have said so that means any murder is going to feel darker. Even if we go with Superman killing in Superman II I think anyone will admit it plays differently and more comically than Superman killing in "Man of Steel" which is a movie trying to be dark and edgy and all Batman like. None of which really plays well as Superman IMO.

    Jason
     
  4. Serveaux

    Serveaux Boomer American Premium Member

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    I don't honestly care whether he does or not. I'm just bored with the pearl-clutching on the subject of his demonstrated behavior.
     
  5. TREK_GOD_1

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    Deadly situations cannot be faced by some camp counselor / faux saint winking and grinning. Superman has killed in the comics--the source--and on film, because that is how the character needs to respond when necessary, as seen in Superman II and Man of Steel.



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  6. Samurai8472

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  7. Tuskin38

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    Tomorrow!
     
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  8. The Realist

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    Indeed! :beer:

    Think it's about time for ye olde official spoiler discussion topic.
     
  9. JD

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    Cool, I thought it was next week.
     
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  13. The Realist

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    I am 100 percent not watching this. :DWhatever it is, I’ll see it in its proper context in a little over six hours. (Maybe repost the video in the spoiler thread I started?)
     
  14. The Realist

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    Sure. Yet nobody mentions that after he killed in the comics--the source--he either exiles himself from earth for what he did or he flat out commits suicide.

    He doesn't make out with someone he barely knows on the rubble and corpses of the city he couldn't save.

    HUUUUUGE difference.
     
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  16. dupersuper

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  17. Jayson1

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    Why do I get the feeling this comic was made in the 90's. That is so much a 90's image and vision of Superman. Superman in the Extreme! Only thing missing is him doing the dew while drinking a Mountain Dew.



    Jason
     
  18. dupersuper

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    It was indeed. How old was Zack Snyder in the 90s? I can picture him reading this at an impressionable age...
     
  19. Christopher

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    He was born in 1966, so the '90s would've been age 24-34 for him. I guess that could be "impressionable" for a comics fan if he started late. I'm two years younger, and I didn't get into comics until late in high school; indeed, The Dark Knight Returns was my entry point into comics that weren't TV tie-ins.
     
  20. Serveaux

    Serveaux Boomer American Premium Member

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    Damn, looks like Superman killin' some Nazis there.