"Superman & Lois Lane" flying to The CW

[Mudd]

Shows that you need to get to know more Republicans, because that's patently false. They would call out pandering, but you could not be more wrong about inclusion.

Go count the Republican faces in Congress that don't belong to white men.*

We'll wait.

It doesn't matter what supporters of today's GOP claim they are; we've seen what they elect.

*There's currently one African-American Republican in the Senate, and one in the House. Five Republican women in the Senate, thirteen in the House. We're not wrong about the GOP; their apologists are.

 

[CorporalClegg]

There is something off about this guy who plays Superman. I'm not sure what it is, but I don't like it. I just don't buy him as Superman.

He's a bore?

 

[Guy Gardener]

CW Superman is always complimenting and boosting everyone, always.

Either Kal-El is a one dimensional brain damaged fool, or he is always lying.

I'm not suggesting that he be negative, but give it a break and be neutral for once in a while.

 

[Professor Zoom]

He's a bore?

[Klytus] Bring me the bore worms [/Klytus]

 

[Jayson1]

CW Superman is always complimenting and boosting everyone, always.

Either Kal-El is a one dimensional brain damaged fool, or he is always lying.

I'm not suggesting that he be negative, but give it a break and be neutral for once in a while.

Complimenting and underserved angst is typical Arrowverse speak. Most scenes play like... Character A: I suck at being a hero. I have failed everyone. Char B: No your great. It's not your fault. You inspire me. Char A: No it is you and everyone who inspires me! Char C and D then comedy bicker over tech soultion. Then hero or heroes leave to go fight the villian. Jason

 

[Kirk Prime]

Go count the Republican faces in Congress that don't belong to white men.*

That's a racist comment. Who cares? But if you must know, there are 21 Republican women in both the House and Senate. There are 4 African American Republican Senators. 2 Asians, 3 Latinos, and one Native American.

https://www.senate.gov/senators/EthnicDiversityintheSenate.htm

https://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/list-women-currently-serving-congress

But the big difference, and you demonstrate it perfectly, is that the only things you see are race and gender. I look at results and what people do.

Meanwhile, under Republican leadership, non-white unemployment has reached an all time low. But why don't you try something different and talk about Superman in a Superman thread?

As easily as I can shoot your horrible, racist and sexist arguments down, I now choose to ignore anything you say in this thread that is not political, because this is a Superman thread, and you're a novice.

From now on, I will only respond to a political point if it is related to the show itself or the writers' use of it, but not something so ridiculously unrelated and ignorant.

 

[The Realist]

^ Chuckles, you're the one that always starts with the politics. You feel the need to insert your past, present, and anticipated future grievances over perceived pandering and misandry and what-all else into practically every post you make. If you didn't do that, Serveaux, myself, and others would have nothing to respond to, and you could have the politics-free discussion of superstuff you claim to desire.

 

[Kirk Prime]

Chuckles, you're the one that always starts with the politics. You feel the need to insert your past, present, and anticipated future grievances over perceived pandering and misandry and what-all else into practically every post you make. If you didn't do that, Serveaux, myself, and others would have nothing to respond to, and you could have the politics-free discussion of superstuff you claim to desire.

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How many political posts have I made that weren't directly related to the show and the writers?

The pandering and misandry on Supergirl is quite prevalent, and it hurts the show. The point of these boards is to talk about the good and bad, potential or otherwise, but one thing that is a constant is the vitriol against conservatives, be it against me, or as written on these shows. The post I responded to this morning had nothing to do with Superman. Nothing to do with the show at all. It was just a hateful, racist, misandrist diatribe against conservatives in general.

One thing I would like to offer you is something you don't get enough of, and that's a conservative point of view, and if your side will tone down the hate of conservatives in general and just listen, I'll do the same. Gladly.

What we have on these shows is forced politics with one side demonized and another side pandered to because the writers are very ignorant of conservatives and care more about a political agenda than entertaining. Instead of trying to defend it, take a moment and see why this demonization is unpopular and likely causing people to stop watching Supergirl.

Please note also that I don't focus solely on politics. Even in this thread I have not done that at all. My hopes for this show is that it is not political because the politics does not entertain and alienates too many people. We have the news for politics. Would you like a show that constantly espoused conservative views and demonized liberals?

I still watch because I really like the classic characters. And when that show decides to entertain, it's damn good. I want to see Superman focus on the storytelling and leave the political commentary for something else.

 

[Mudd]

What we have on these shows is forced politics with one side demonized and another side pandered to because the writers are very ignorant of conservatives and care more about a political agenda than entertaining. Instead of trying to defend it, take a moment and see why this demonization is unpopular and likely causing people to stop watching Supergirl.

 

[Professor Zoom]

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How many political posts have I made that weren't directly related to the show and the writers?

The pandering and misandry on Supergirl is quite prevalent, and it hurts the show. The point of these boards is to talk about the good and bad, potential or otherwise, but one thing that is a constant is the vitriol against conservatives, be it against me, or as written on these shows. The post I responded to this morning had nothing to do with Superman. Nothing to do with the show at all. It was just a hateful, racist, misandrist diatribe against conservatives in general.

One thing I would like to offer you is something you don't get enough of, and that's a conservative point of view, and if your side will tone down the hate of conservatives in general and just listen, I'll do the same. Gladly.

What we have on these shows is forced politics with one side demonized and another side pandered to because the writers are very ignorant of conservatives and care more about a political agenda than entertaining. Instead of trying to defend it, take a moment and see why this demonization is unpopular and likely causing people to stop watching Supergirl.

Please note also that I don't focus solely on politics. Even in this thread I have not done that at all. My hopes for this show is that it is not political because the politics does not entertain and alienates too many people. We have the news for politics. Would you like a show that constantly espoused conservative views and demonized liberals?

I still watch because I really like the classic characters. And when that show decides to entertain, it's damn good. I want to see Superman focus on the storytelling and leave the political commentary for something else.

To be frank, you are the only one who sees it this way because what you are seeing isn’t there.

The show isn’t radical or extreme. I suspect you see it that way because, in fact, you are. You might be the one out of step.

Good luck and good night.

 

[DigificWriter]

I think there's confusion out there as to what this show is going to offer when we already have Supergirl, so I'm going to answer that question.

Supergirl is an action show where she's in the 'prime' of her superheroing career and is therefore coming up against daily, if not weekly, villainous challenges.

Superman and Lois, by contrast, features a Superman who is long past the 'prime' of his career as a superhero, which makes the show, based on the premise, a family drama in the vein of something like This is Us, where the focus isn't on him and/or Lois fighting bad guys but on how they balance trying to raise a very young child, being in the first couple of years as their marriage, and maintaining full-time work schedules, with the occasional bout of superheroics tossed in.

 

[Kirk Prime]

To be frank, you are the only one who sees it this way because what you are seeing isn’t there.

The show isn’t radical or extreme. I suspect you see it that way because, in fact, you are. You might be the one out of step.

If that were true, you couldn't google it and find tons of people who recognize the political aspect of the show.

It's a reality whether you accept it or not and that's why talking about it is relevant.

Superman and Lois, by contrast, features a Superman who is long past the 'prime' of his career as a superhero, which makes the show, based on the premise, a family drama in the vein of something like This is Us, where the focus isn't on him and/or Lois fighting bad guys but on how they balance trying to raise a very young child, being in the first couple of years as their marriage, and maintaining full-time work schedules, with the occasional bout of superheroics tossed in.

If that's the route they go, I don't know how well the show would do. Superman may be a little older, but he ages much slower, and he's not going to stop being a hero just because he has a family. That wouldn't be in his nature. Superman would rather die than see someone else in danger when he can help. If that's what they do, I think people will be disappointed. If the world was in danger, and Superman is ok to sit back and let Kara or Barry or whomever fight the fight alone, then that's not Superman.

 

[DigificWriter]

If that's the route they go, I don't know how well the show would do. Superman may be a little older, but he ages much slower, and he's not going to stop being a hero just because he has a family. That wouldn't be in his nature. Superman would rather die than see someone else in danger when he can help. If that's what they do, I think people will be disappointed. If the world was in danger, and Superman is ok to sit back and let Kara or Barry or whomever fight the fight alone, then that's not Superman.

I didn't say he was going to 'stop being a hero'; what I said is that superheroics aren't going to be the 'focus' of this series based on the premise and the length of time he's already spent as a hero by the time this series will be set (close to 20 years).

Superheroics will still be a part of this show, but not to the degree that I think people are expecting, and I predict that most of the dramatic appeal of this show will be journalistic and family-related in nature.

IOW, "how do Clark and Lois navigate the first year or two of their marriage while also raising a very young son and balancing their very busy work schedules with the occasional bout of superheroing from Clark?"

 

[Noname Given]

What we have on these shows is forced politics with one side demonized and another side pandered to because the writers are very ignorant of conservatives and care more about a political agenda than entertaining. Instead of trying to defend it, take a moment and see why this demonization is unpopular and likely causing people to stop watching Supergirl.

It's no more 'Forced Politics' than the Tim Allen or (former) Rosanne shows. Yes, the writers have a viewpoint they're expressing, but that's what writers do. I think you see it as 'forced' because it exposes viewpoints you don't agree with. If anything, what's causing lower viewership numbers is that it's often up against Sunday Night Football.

 

[DigificWriter]

Guys, Kirk Prime is a political conspiracy theorist; trying to speak with him rationally about anything politics-related is a fool's errand.

 

[Professor Zoom]

If that were true, you couldn't google it and find tons of people who recognize the political aspect of the show.

It's a reality whether you accept it or not and that's why talking about it is relevant.




If that's the route they go, I don't know how well the show would do. Superman may be a little older, but he ages much slower, and he's not going to stop being a hero just because he has a family. That wouldn't be in his nature. Superman would rather die than see someone else in danger when he can help. If that's what they do, I think people will be disappointed. If the world was in danger, and Superman is ok to sit back and let Kara or Barry or whomever fight the fight alone, then that's not Superman.

Yeah. Google it. Because you would never find “tons” of people with radicalized opinions on the internet. That almost never happens.

 

[Admiral2]

It's no more 'Forced Politics' than the Tim Allen or (former) Rosanne shows. Yes, the writers have a viewpoint they're expressing, but that's what writers do. I think you see it as 'forced' because it exposes viewpoints you don't agree with..

If I stopped watching or reading everything that espoused politics i didn't agree with I'd have to throw out my television and read the bible to go to sleep at night.

It's not the nature of the politics. It's the fact that the writers are so incapable of subtlety every episode is like an Inclusivity PSA. That qualifies as "forced" in my opinion. And yes, Roseanne (both original and reboot) was guilty of the same thing.

In defense of Last Man Standing, however, Tim Allen saved the bulk of his politicizing for the end-show opinion pieces (which is what opinion pieces are for). the show itself was just a funny sitcom, which is what it's supposed to be.

Supergirl is supposed to be a superhero series.

 

[DigificWriter]

Supergirl is supposed to be a superhero series.

And superhero comic books are inherently political commentary and always have been.

If you don't want 'politics in your superheroing', don't read superhero comics or watch superhero comic television series.

 

[Tuskin38]

X-Men was was pretty political.

 

[Admiral2]

And superhero comic books are inherently political commentary and always have been.

If you don't want 'politics in your superheroing', don't read superhero comics or watch superhero comic television series.

Wow. It's like you didn't read a word of my actual post before the last sentence..

I expect politics to be in all my entertainment, because it always has been. What I don't want is for that entertainment to be created by people who forget the first job of entertainers is to entertain. Plenty of people are capable of doing that and still being political. The writers of Supergirl aren't.