"Superman & Lois Lane" flying to The CW
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This is political and superheroic
Is it objectionable?
I suspect it won't be.
That could be interesting, depending on execution. He still needs to be Superman and doing Superman things.
It's much worse than Tim Allen and Roseanne. And sorry, but Sunday Night Football doesn't last all season, and the bad ratings did.
Liberal tolerance 101. Silence/ignore anyone who isn't a liberal.
50 years of superhero TV shows completely prove this wrong. Superman 1950s, Batman 1966, Lois and Clark, Smallville, Flash 90, even Arrowverse shows like Arrow and Flash--NONE of those shows shove extreme politics on the viewers the way Supergirl does. Even Supergirl wasn't that bad until Trump won and the writers went insane over it.
Supergirl is more like Boston Legal in that regard. If you want politics, watch whatever news channel you prefer. A superhero show is NOT supposed to be political at all.
Of course not, unless you are pro-Hitler, but I think it's safe to say that 99.99 percent of the country is not pro-Hitler and that Hitler is as extreme as it gets. Fighting Hitler does not wrongfully demonize half the country.
Why don't you just stop watching it? If you hate the what the show stands for so much, then why keep torching yourself with it. No matter how much I liked the characters, if I was as bothered by the ideals a show promotes as you seem to be by Supergirl's, I would just stop watching. Or least I would stop bitching about it after every episode, or every time the show came up in a conversation. We get it you don't like them promoting accepting people who aren't straight white men, so now how about we just move on.
That could be interesting, depending on execution. He still needs to be Superman and doing Superman things.
It's much worse than Tim Allen and Roseanne. And sorry, but Sunday Night Football doesn't last all season, and the bad ratings did.
Liberal tolerance 101. Silence/ignore anyone who isn't a liberal.
50 years of superhero TV shows completely prove this wrong. Superman 1950s, Batman 1966, Lois and Clark, Smallville, Flash 90, even Arrowverse shows like Arrow and Flash--NONE of those shows shove extreme politics on the viewers the way Supergirl does. Even Supergirl wasn't that bad until Trump won and the writers went insane over it.
Supergirl is more like Boston Legal in that regard. If you want politics, watch whatever news channel you prefer. A superhero show is NOT supposed to be political at all.
Apologies for the double post.
That's a good question. The reason I watch the show is that I am a big Superman fan, and she's a very important character in the Superman universe. I always liked Supergirl, and I try not to let bad writers spoil that for me. I realize your answer to a problem may be to quit, but mine is to voice my concerns with the hope that at some point, enough people agree that the show gets better.
Plus, as I have said MANY times, when the show is NOT political, like the first season and a half or so, it's quite good. The Lex episodes from last season perfectly illustrates that. They were incredible.
As for your last sentence, you're just putting words in my mouth, and you're making up an argument I never made, and arguing it yourself just to be fake outraged. That's simply not an accurate assessment. But it does show your own hate and your own racism against straight white males. You use that term as if it's a curse, and I feel sorry for you for that.
That's a good question. The reason I watch the show is that I am a big Superman fan, and she's a very important character in the Superman universe. I always liked Supergirl, and I try not to let bad writers spoil that for me. I realize your answer to a problem may be to quit, but mine is to voice my concerns with the hope that at some point, enough people agree that the show gets better.
Plus, as I have said MANY times, when the show is NOT political, like the first season and a half or so, it's quite good. The Lex episodes from last season perfectly illustrates that. They were incredible.
As for your last sentence, you're just putting words in my mouth, and you're making up an argument I never made, and arguing it yourself just to be fake outraged. That's simply not an accurate assessment. But it does show your own hate and your own racism against straight white males. You use that term as if it's a curse, and I feel sorry for you for that.
You say you hate the politics of the show, and most of the politics of the show is about accepting people who aren't straight white males, and fighting against racists and bigots, so if you have that much of a problem with the show's politics, then you must have a problem with that.
And just to be clear I am a straight white male, but I am also willing to accept that we are not the only group on the planet who matters, and the ones who don't accept that just piss me off.
And just to be clear I am a straight white male, but I am also willing to accept that we are not the only group on the planet who matters, and the ones who don't accept that just piss me off.
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In 1941? You’d be surprised. Getting involved in a “European war” was very polarizing in the 30s and early 40s. Americans expressing support and admiration for Hitler were not unheard of. In 1941,showing a man dressed like the American flag punching Hitler was not without controversy.
Roseanne shot herself in the foot when she made that racist tweet (and then blamed it on Ambien
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It's acceptable and not political when it's politics you AGREE with. What a way to take a stand, chum.
I think you need to read that link more carefully. There are not 4 African American Republican Senators, there is one. The other three on that list served in the 1960s and the 1870s. The two Asian American Senators are also from the past, as is one of the Hispanic Senators and the Native American Senator.
And you're right that there are 21 Republican women in Congress. There's more than 5 times that number on the Democratic side, but your math is correct.
It would be super-hard to make a show about a hero who "fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way" without getting political at least to the degree necessary to explore just what "the American way" is.
Hasn't Superman mostly reverted back to just "Truth and Justice" in recent years though? I thought they'd mostly dropped the "...and the American Way" now 'cause, well...y'know. 
I personally don't care about presenting political ideology in fiction, but I hate it when it's ham-fisted.
I personally don't care about presenting political ideology in fiction, but I hate it when it's ham-fisted.
It is true that you don't focus only on politics, but when you do you state subjective opinion as objective fact--which it is not. Despite the fact that since the eighties there has been a concerted effort in the U.S. to equate social conservatism with economic conservatism, this is not how things work in real life. A poster earlier in the thread hinted at this point -- not all Republicans are social conservatives. That said, voters must now make the very real decision--do I vote for or support a party that values the importance of economics over basic human values and environmental imperatives? What is more important--short term economic prosperity or respect for human rights--unfortunately, this is the current state of not just U.S. politics but many other countries in the Western Hemisphere.
If that is a future costume, rather than an original costume, that Kara is supposed to wear not now, not yet... So at any point between a week and 15 years... Kara remains the same weight and shape the whole time, and this is a biggie... She does not lose any limbs before this certainly still distant point in time that Kara decides for herself that she is too old to scoot around in a sexy minidress like a fricking teenager.
I have felt some of the backlash about the shows politics or any show or movies politics comes from political fatigue. We live in a more politically charged world maybe even more than in 60's. We got a devisive President,more tv shows and movies than ever before. A internet were people talk about it non-stop and clickbait that fuels it. The rub is the best shows are about something thus politics are often explored but because of the fatigue you see more desire for pure escapsim. What we are loosing is shows that challenge it's audience. You have stuff that caters to it's demographics or shows that are safe but aren't about anything. What we are loosing are shows that are political but your unsure about it's politics because it's very good at exploring the moral grey area of human nature. There is no moral grey area about Supergirl so people just need to except that. Some like and others tolerate it but if people hate it they should stop watching. Plenty of other shows old and new to watch. Jason
Ever tried this Jayson?
Republicans before Trump, were still living in the real world.
Republicans before Trump, were still living in the real world.
Hasn't Superman mostly reverted back to just "Truth and Justice" in recent years though? I thought they'd mostly dropped the "...and the American Way" now 'cause, well...y'know.
It was originally just "truth and justice" when the intro debuted on radio. The "American way" bit was added during WWII, then dropped again postwar, and the narration in the later years of the radio series stressed Superman's battle against prejudice and intolerance (which became the prevailing thread in the stories in '46-'47 or so). "The American way" bit was put back when the radio show moved to television at the start of the '50s, probably because the Cold War and the Red Scare were making declarations of patriotism culturally mandatory again, and that solidified it from then on. So it was the addition of "the American way" to the narration that was politically motivated, not its removal.
Looks pretty good. Proably give it a chance. Especially with Veep over could use another politics comedy. Jason
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