Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

[Kai "the spy"]

^ And James Gunn echoed that in one of the recent Peacemaker podcasts.

 

[Anwar]

Again, yours is built on hollow, unsubstantiated claims about the desires of innumerable moviegoers, which you are incapable of knowing. What is known is that the near-universal praise / interest in Barbie and Oppenheimer was the only logical reason for the films' remarkable theatrical success. You can try to "level" the audience interest playing field (to aid the now-sagging MCU) with baseless claims as much as you like, but your underlying message created to protect the MCU of recent years is inapplicable to Barbie and Oppenheimer. Audiences who found many of the recent years MCU films lacking (or flat out awful) made that discovery in the theatres, hence the quickly sinking box office during their runs, which is verifiable..

Not unsubstantiated at all, as stated above both Nolan and Gerwig deliberately delayed both going to VOD and streaming precisely to draw more to the Cinema. Praise and interest simply aren't enough.

 

[Skywalker]

I don't really buy a lot of Blu-rays anymore, but I'll likely make an exception for this. Hopefully they release a 4K UHD version.

 

[theenglish]

Not unsubstantiated at all, as stated above both Nolan and Gerwig deliberately delayed both going to VOD and streaming precisely to draw more to the Cinema. Praise and interest simply aren't enough.

In a similar fashion, Superman is specifically being put on VOD early to complement the release of Peacemaker. I guess the strategy can work both ways.

 

[tenmei]

And the advertised worldwide VOD release is US only. Great.

 

[theenglish]

And the advertised worldwide VOD release is US only. Great.

I just saw it available in Canada. Cineplex tells me I really want it.

 

[tenmei]

I just saw it available in Canada. Cineplex tells me I really want it.

UK shows that "release date to be announced".

 

[Mudd]

In a similar fashion, Superman is specifically being put on VOD early to complement the release of Peacemaker. I guess the strategy can work both ways.

I'd squint pretty hard at that offered rationale, TBH.

Gunn is the creative director and public face of DC Studios. I expect that he's a participant but not the single final arbiter of marketing or distribution decisions. Those are specialized aspects of the business.

 

[V'Lias]

I just saw it, and I thought it was pretty good. I'd go with a 8/10 after first viewing. I wasn't blown away by anything, but I didn't think anything was truly bad either. The inclusion of the "Justice Gang" was a highlight for me, leading me to give it an extra star.

Fillion as Green Lantern was *exactly* how I imagined it would be, and Mister Terrific was great as well. I was a bit disappointed at how little Hawkgirl featured, but someone has to get the least amount of attention I guess, and it is a Superman movie after all!

I didn't have any issues with the casting, and I thought most were very good. I thought it was good that they started out with Lois knowing who he is, superheroes established and all that, it allowed them to just tell a story. It didn't feel like they were just trying to set up the next movie either, which I also really liked! I also liked the tone pretty well too. It had some humor without it being in every scene, and didn't go super dark either. There were also a few other moments I found humorous that probably weren't overtly designed that way, like Guy using a massive baseball bat in the background of Lois and Clark's talk. I would have really enjoyed seeing more of Perry, but at least he made the most of his limited scenes!

On the negative side, some of the fight scenes went a little too long for my taste, and a lot of the pocket universe escape segment didn't do a great job of keeping my attention either. I was looking forward to seeing Krypto in the movie, but unfortunately it ended up being a bit of a miss for me. I have a hard time deciding why though.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

Not unsubstantiated at all, as stated above both Nolan and Gerwig deliberately delayed both going to VOD and streaming precisely to draw more to the Cinema. Praise and interest simply aren't enough.

Yes. Again, a quick search online shows that Oppenheimer was in theaters for seven months before Christopher Nolan allowed it to be released on streaming and VOD, and Barbie's streaming and VOD date was pushed back by a month.
In fact, by keeping Oppenheimer on the big screen and IMAX longer than anticipated, it interfered with the release of other movies scheduled for IMAX and made them less profitable.

 

[BillJ]

Watched it for a third time, this time at home. I am just dumbfounded that there are people out there that say there is nothing redeeming about this film.

Even the FOX News watching, Trump loving member of the household said it was a great movie when it was over. Went off to start watching Superman & Lois on HBO Max.

 

[Artoo Atari]

I think people can spin almost any movie into a statement for or against their own political/philosophical viewpoint. I just enjoyed it for what is was, a fun movie about super heroes, and enjoyed it greatly.

 

[Mudd]

We watched it again a little while ago on TV.

 

[The Realist]

Went off to start watching Superman & Lois on HBO Max.

The other great Superman production of the 21st century.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I walked into this movie thinking that Lex Luthor, the word's greatst criminal genius was already president, so intermittently I remembered that thing is something I should keep my ears pricked up about...

I've only seen it once, maybe a month ago.

Other than the General acting like it was a regular sales calls, when Lex was trying to push him into a war, unless I missed something obvious, they didn't say that he wasn't the President, so long as he is an undivested industrialist unconcerned about the safety of his electorate.

I'm like %99 sure he's not the Prez, but I'm suggesting there may be some grey smudge in the story where up is down and cats are marrying dogs, so did they actually %100 prove somewhere in the film that he wasn't POTUS?

 

[Mudd]

I walked into this movie thinking that Lex Luthor, the word's greatst criminal genius was already president, so intermittently I remembered that thing is something I should keep my ears pricked up about...

I've only seen it once, maybe a month ago.

Other than the General acting like it was a regular sales calls, when Lex was trying to push him into a war, unless I missed something obvious, they didn't say that he wasn't the President, so long as he is an undivested industrialist unconcerned about the safety of his electorate.

I'm like %99 sure he's not the Prez, but I'm suggesting there may be some grey smudge in the story where up is down and cats are marrying dogs, so did they actually %100 prove somewhere in the film that he wasn't POTUS?

If he were, he'd have overruled the general and sent ICE after the Kryptonian.

 

[Guy Gardener]

If he were, he'd have overruled the general and sent ICE after the Kryptonian.

Not if he employed a Chinese Wall, but that's ridiculous.

 

[Forbin]

Well, I had doubts, but I had fun. Even my wife liked it, but mainly because she loves doggies.
It leaned a bit more on the 1979 film than a new film should have, but what the hell.

 

[Mudd]

Well, I had doubts, but I had fun. Even my wife liked it, but mainly because she loves doggies.
It leaned a bit more on the 1979 film than a new film should have, but what the hell.

I liked the way Gunn used the audience's presumed familiarity with the 1979 film and, to a lesser degree, the Routh movie to subvert expectations at two points:

• Portraying Eve as an utterly self-absorbed airhead, only to reveal that she was engaged in an ongoing and pretty thorough documentation of all Lex's crimes and machinations;*
• Evoking the petty silliness of Lex Luthor as real-estate obsessed to obscure the single-minded nature of his vendetta against Superman.

*Not an accident on her part, by any stretch of the imagination. Check out the close-ups on documents, etc.

 

[Anwar]

Watched it for a third time, this time at home. I am just dumbfounded that there are people out there that say there is nothing redeeming about this film.

Even the FOX News watching, Trump loving member of the household said it was a great movie when it was over. Went off to start watching Superman & Lois on HBO Max.

That's mainly Snyderbots, you can ignore them