It is a movie, at the end of the day. No one was harmed because of a change to give Clark something to consider about who he was.
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It is a movie, at the end of the day. No one was harmed because of a change to give Clark something to consider about who he was.
No one involved with this project needs pity. Far from it. And describing a portrayal as a "caricature" because some detail of backstory has been changed is an abuse of language.
You know what Jor-El's message really is? It's
It's a revelation out of left field that shakes up familiar assumptions and reframes everything in Clark's story.
Frankly, it was a great idea. I've been reading Superman for 60+ years, and I'm glad they did something unexpected and different.
I’ve been debating the Krypton thing with comics fans on another forum as well. I don’t really have the energy to argue on two fronts over what strikes me as basically a non-issue. I guess I just feel that people to whom the portrayal of Krypton is vitally important to Superman’s character have very different perceptions and priorities than I do. My reaction was, “Ooh, nice twist,” and promptly forgetting about it beyond its effect on this movie’s particular narrative. It’s a plot device and it’s fine. Nothing of value was lost.
And as demonstrated previously in this thread, the twist really isn't that much different than other versions of Krypton we've seen.
Good thing this film didn't replace all of the previous iterations of Superman. And his entire comic catalog.
For a long time I felt Krypton is too important to Superman’s adventures. Between Supergirl and Superman and Lois - tv series how many seasons had the big bad be Kryptonian? Oh and Smallville too. As pointed out it could be argued AI Jor-El was its series long Big Bad! Krypton mythology can be a great source of stories. But often is lazy crutch. Originally Brainuac was not from Krypton either. I hope part of this choice is moving away from going to that same well for everything. Learning all Kryptonite is apparently gone from Earth is also sign this is not Smallville. Another John Byrne choice that is was very, very rare.
Everything I know about Brainiac is from Harley Quinn...and in that show, he's not from Krypton. So maybe that's on a case-by-case basis.
I should check that show out. Nice to hear that. Brainiac being created by Jor-El originated on 90s cartoons. Where it worked very well. But it complicated things elsewhere. The overlap in similarities in that version of Brainiac and the Eradicator are too many. The reputation that Superman has a weak Rogues Gallery is not helped by many seeming derivative of others.
Making him an AI from Krypton is a very recent development. He's from Colu as far as I'm concerned.
Brainiac
Brainiac was the planetary supercomputer of Krypton until it left shortly before the planet's destruction and traveled the galaxy in pursuit of knowledge. He destroyed the sources of the knowledge to increase its value and sought to apply this to the entire universe to complete what it perceived...
Smallville's Brainiac was played by James "Spike" Masters... Wooo?
It's super weird, because he has an American accent.
As well as the NBC/CW's Supergirl "recently", where "Brainiac" played by Laura Vandervoort (Supergirl on Smallville) a rogue AI who destroyed Krypton. A copy of "her" program was nestled in teen Supergirl's rocket ship to Earth, to carry on the fight against fleshie filth... But Brainiac 5, no relation, a member of the legendary Legion of Super Heroes from the 31st century was an alien from Colu with a tenth level intellect, temping as tech support at CatCo Media for 3 seasons.
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Thank you, both. I forgot their was an animated Superman cartoon. I watched the Justice League animated series and a few episode of The Batman 90s series, but I don't think I ever saw a full episode of that Superman series.
And I completely forgot Brainiac was a Kryptonian program in Supergirl.
I think he has always been Coluan in the comics.
And I completely forgot Brainiac was a Kryptonian program in Supergirl.
I think he has always been Coluan in the comics.
How dare you have such a reasoned and nuanced opinion!
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