Supergirl TV Series is being work on.
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No, it couldn't, because it's not set IN the past. It's as contemporarily set as Arrow, Flash, SG, Legends, iZombie, and Constantine are/were.
^ That's an aesthetic choice and has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual time in which the series is set.
The video game Heavy Rain is contemporaneously set, but has a very heavy Noir/retro look to it aesthetically, just as Gotham does.
The video game Heavy Rain is contemporaneously set, but has a very heavy Noir/retro look to it aesthetically, just as Gotham does.
It's an aesthetic choice that intentionally obfuscates the identity of the era Gotham is set in.
CRT monitors in the police station and seemingly not a car in sight made after 1985ish.
Right. The Gotham characters drive '70s cars, but they have modern cell phones. It's a hybrid retro/modern universe like the settings of the Burton Batman films and Batman: The Animated Series, which had '40s cars and fashions coexisting with '80s/'90s computers. It's deliberately a "timeless" setting, because Batman has been around so long that it's both classic and modern.
Really, the show looks older with the cars they use and the technology. It looks like it's in the 90's or 2000 not present day. Everyone on that show has a flip phone from that period and the computers they use look like computers from at least 10 years ago. It has never felt like a contemporary show.
Bruno Heller explained this to Entertainment Weekly some time ago:
"Gotham is not set in any particular time period: Okay, this has been out there a bit, but Heller had a nice quote elaborating on the show's timeless quality: “It's a mash-up, to use the modern phrase,” he said. “If today Batman exists, then this world is the past." Sep 23, 2014
^Of course it hasn't felt like a contemporary show, but that doesn't mean it's set in the past of our world. That's thinking too literally. Like the Burton films, like Batman: TAS, it's an alternate present that has the look and feel of the past. As Heller said, it's a "timeless" world mashing up elements of multiple eras.
And good writing.
It is clear from the creator that this is the past of Batman and is therefore not concurrent with say Flash or Arrow. I do love that it feels "timeless" because I can see it as being before Flash or Arrow so it's almost like a prequel to those shows.
You're taking that out of context. Here's his fuller quote (emphasis added):
Batman's origin story was first told in 1940, so then it would've been set in the mid-1920s, say. But the story's been retold many times over the decades, always moving forward. The origin story from the Tim Burton film probably took place in the '70s; the origin story from Batman Begins would've been in the '90s; and so on. So it's not tied to any single time. Yes, it's "the past" because it's part of Bruce Wayne's history, but it will always be the past, even when it's in the present or the future. But it's also "now" because it is the present setting of an ongoing TV series. It's both of those at once.
I don't think it can be, though, because it's just too much of a muddle. The city feels like '70s or '80s New York, the cars tend to be '50s models, but the phones and computers are '90s or early 2000s models. It's a mashup of multiple eras. But nothing in the Flash/Arrow world is like that -- it's unambiguously modern, no jumbling of eras or technologies. They just don't feel like connected realities.
Also, Gotham kinda sucks. It's crazy enough to be entertaining, but it's really, really bad and really, really stupid, and it would only drag down any other DC universe to be tied into it.
Of course I did not say it was connected, but to me, it just feels out of time enough, or far enough behind that it could be connected. I would also not say the show sucks, but it is messy. In the end I am perfectly ok with it being it's own thing.
What I do hope is that by season 2 of Supergirl that we can get a massive crossover with Arrow, Flash and Legends of Tomorrow.
What I do hope is that by season 2 of Supergirl that we can get a massive crossover with Arrow, Flash and Legends of Tomorrow.
Honestly, they already have more than enough characters just in the Superman family to draw from, that I think would be just as cool to see on the show, like Superboy, Steel, Power Girl, Cir-El, Superwoman, etc.
And since the CW shows haven't used them all yet, I have to imagine they could also fit in characters from the Batman and WW world, like Batgirl, Robin, Nightwing, Wonder Girl, etc.
I'm really hoping we get to see a Bizarro-Supergirl at some point as well.
And since the CW shows haven't used them all yet, I have to imagine they could also fit in characters from the Batman and WW world, like Batgirl, Robin, Nightwing, Wonder Girl, etc.
I'm really hoping we get to see a Bizarro-Supergirl at some point as well.
I think characters from the Legion of Super-Heroes making an occasional visit to this show and the Flash could provide a nice subtle link.
Surely there's a rights issue? When they acquire the (transitory/handshake) rights to use minor characters, arn't they asking for some exclusivity at least in the immediate future?
Unless it's Legion Week, where the same actors from the same Legion show up in Gotham, Arrow, Constantine (fingers crossed) IZombie, the Flash and The Titans (Which for some unfucking known reason is now bewing called Black birds?)
Unless it's Legion Week, where the same actors from the same Legion show up in Gotham, Arrow, Constantine (fingers crossed) IZombie, the Flash and The Titans (Which for some unfucking known reason is now bewing called Black birds?)
Sorry to re-visit..but i think the hold off on crossing over Supergirl & Flash would be to see if this show stands on its own during the 1st 1/2 of the season (or really first couple of weeks).
They'll have 3 choices:
1. Crossover, generally to help the CW show (i.e. CBS has more reach & media grab)...but also, Flash fans will not be criticising the show, and instead use their combined social media power to gain even more buzz (kinda like how scandal 7 Empire fills up my social media feeds during their airings)
2. Crossover, but mainly to boost Supergirl's ratings (hoping that Flash's relatively large audience can boost up Supergirl). The danger here is that if Supergirl is sagging than the social media buzz will draw skepticism rather than excitement (like the Arrow-Flash crossovers)
3. Let Supergirl die alone, and Berlanti will re-double efforts with Arrow Flash & Legends of Tomorrow.
As for how it can mesh....Supergirl can be "timeless", or at least 3 years ahead of Arrow & Flash so it explains the lack of metahumans (That Superman might have known about Kara for years, but he didn;t reveal himself to the world officially till years later. Supergirl could start at least couple years after that world revelation).
or also, Superman is an alien, but no metahumans have really appeared, hence STAR Labs surprise about it...and any heroes are localized (i.e. Batman to Gotham City), so they are not in the daily lives of other cities..
They'll have 3 choices:
1. Crossover, generally to help the CW show (i.e. CBS has more reach & media grab)...but also, Flash fans will not be criticising the show, and instead use their combined social media power to gain even more buzz (kinda like how scandal 7 Empire fills up my social media feeds during their airings)
2. Crossover, but mainly to boost Supergirl's ratings (hoping that Flash's relatively large audience can boost up Supergirl). The danger here is that if Supergirl is sagging than the social media buzz will draw skepticism rather than excitement (like the Arrow-Flash crossovers)
3. Let Supergirl die alone, and Berlanti will re-double efforts with Arrow Flash & Legends of Tomorrow.
As for how it can mesh....Supergirl can be "timeless", or at least 3 years ahead of Arrow & Flash so it explains the lack of metahumans (That Superman might have known about Kara for years, but he didn;t reveal himself to the world officially till years later. Supergirl could start at least couple years after that world revelation).
or also, Superman is an alien, but no metahumans have really appeared, hence STAR Labs surprise about it...and any heroes are localized (i.e. Batman to Gotham City), so they are not in the daily lives of other cities..
If Supergirl were to struggle on CBS, would the show be too expensive to be transferred over to the CW (where it right perhaps have a better shot at mixing it up with Arrow and its stable of related series), or are the production costs at a level where the CW could possibly consider taking over the reins?
Supergirl does not have to stand on her own two feet.
Stand on Barry's shoulders, just remember to wear underwear.
Stand on Barry's shoulders, just remember to wear underwear.
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