Supergirl TV Series is being work on.

[DigificWriter]

Mark Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, and even Berlanti himself have previously stated that crossovers between SG, Arrow, and Flash are possible (I believe Berlanti has previously responded in the affirmative after being asked this question directly).

We also have The Hollywood Reporter and Entertainment Weekly having made statements (off-handed though they may have been) indicating that the issue of whether or not crossovers are POSSIBLE has in fact been settled, but that the focus is not currently on planning any crossover between the series.

We'll see, though.

 

[davejames]

Is a crossover really so important that it's become the only thing we're talking about? Frankly I can see why CBS is discouraging one -- because all the focus on the CW shows is overshadowing Supergirl itself. I can understand why they want it to stand on its own and establish its own name, its own voice.

Yeah I have to agree there. A crossover at some point would be fun to see, but I'm personally MUCH more interested and excited by the chance just to finally see a Supergirl series. And to explore that character and see her in action.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Though there is one very important reason why it may be better not to have the crossover.
Given how Cisco reacted to Black Canary it is likely he would get a geekgasm heart attack if he ever met Supergirl. And we wouldn't want that, would we?

 

[Dick Whitman]

I wonder if the actors on Arrow and the Flash have crossover episodes worked into their contracts? Does Stephen Amell make the same amount of money to appear on an episode of The Flash as a single episode of his own series? Or the same amount as any other guest star? Sometimes they are brief appearances but it still needs to be worked into their schedule.

 

[Christopher]

Mark Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, and even Berlanti himself have previously stated that crossovers between SG, Arrow, and Flash are possible (I believe Berlanti has previously responded in the affirmative after being asked this question directly).

We also have The Hollywood Reporter and Entertainment Weekly having made statements (off-handed though they may have been) indicating that the issue of whether or not crossovers are POSSIBLE has in fact been settled, but that the focus is not currently on planning any crossover between the series.

We'll see, though.

Again, "possible" is irrelevant and essentially meaningless. Probable is what matters.

It's also important to remember that there are different people involved, and different people often see the same situation in different ways, and try to spin it in different ways. Sometimes one person may believe a debate has been settled one way, but another may believe it hasn't been settled at all, or has been settled a different way. We filter what we see through our expectations and hopes. Crossovers may be possible in Berlanti's mind, and that's what he says in interviews, but that doesn't mean every other decision-maker involved agrees.

In short, it won't happen unless it happens. Until then, it's basically pointless to dwell on it. And frankly I'm getting a little tired of the subject at this point.

 

[Nerys Myk]

DCWUniverse and DCBSUniverse

 

[Kai "the spy"]

DCWUniverse and DCBSUniverse

Okay, I've been using the former for a while now, but even I can see the latter doesn't work.

 

[Thestral]

Arrowverse and Supergirl (until it gets a spinoff or is connected, then it's all Arrowverse).

 

[DigificWriter]

Arrow-verse and Super-verse (if they're separate).

Otherwise, it's just the Arrow-verse (or Flarrow-verse).

 

[Christopher]

I'm the only one who likes "DC Legends Universe?" I think it's classy. And it's inclusive rather than being specific to one character.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Hehe, Berlanti could sidestep CBS and have Benoist guest star on The Flash as Power Girl.

Benoist is quite a lovely and attractive young woman - but I'm not sure her build is suitable to a costume with a boobie-window.

That seems imcompatible with what Berlanti said: "there's a lot that would have to happen before everybody might say yes to that." Which makes it pretty clear that everybody has not said yes to that yet, and a number of people are a long way from even potentially saying yes (because he says "might say yes" rather than "will say"). What I'm hearing from everything that's been said is that Berlanti wants a crossover, but he's meeting with heavy resistance to the idea and knows that it'll take a lot of effort and favorable circumstances to change people's minds.

I'm not really arguing with you, because I have no dog in this fight: if it happens, good, and if it doesn't, I won't be surprised and I will still be happy to have 5 DC shows on TV (even if I don't really care for "Gotham"). And I really do agree with your logic, for the most part. BUT.... it seems to me that perhaps we can take the fact that Berlanti would mention the possibility *at all* as a sign that more progress has been made toward it being allowed than we might think. Because it seems to me that mentioning the possibility *without* *anything* real holding it up would mean that either A. Berlanti and the powers that be at the CW and CBS are complete jerks that would hold that out in front of the fans with no intention of doing anything, just to try to pump up the ratings (possible, but probably not a good idea long term - and CBS thinks long term), or B. Berlanti is completely off the reservation in talking out of his butt like that (also possible, but I don't think "rebels" that don't play ball right get to helm 4 hour-longs on two major networks that often).

We shall see, either way. No point in debating it, really... unless someone here is a network exec?

 

[JD]

I'm wondering if perhaps Berlanti keeps talking about a crossover just to show the suits at the networks that there is interest. I also have to wonder what the people in charge of The CW think since the only people he's mentioned are CBS and even though they are part of the same parent company they are still run by different people.

So even if we don't get a full on crossover, I wonder if they'd still be able to sneek in references to the Arrowverse shows? Like maybe a newspaper headline referring to the events in one of the other shows.

 

[Christopher]

Hehe, Berlanti could sidestep CBS and have Benoist guest star on The Flash as Power Girl.

Benoist is quite a lovely and attractive young woman - but I'm not sure her build is suitable to a costume with a boobie-window.

Not all of Power Girl's costumes have had the window. And characters don't need to retain their most distinctive physical attributes when converted to the screen. If we can have a brown-haired (or brown-skinned) Jimmy Olsen, a 6'2" Wolverine with minimal body hair, and a beautiful Hermione Granger, we can have a small-breasted Power Girl.

Indeed, given the commonality of unusually large breasts in comic and video-game characters, there's a long history of busty characters being played by more normally endowed actresses -- Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft being probably the most famous example.

BUT.... it seems to me that perhaps we can take the fact that Berlanti would mention the possibility *at all* as a sign that more progress has been made toward it being allowed than we might think.

I agree with JD here -- I think it instead suggests that he's trying to promote viewer interest in the idea as a way of overcoming network resistance.

 

[davejames]

I don't think he's really trying to "promote" the idea. Yeah in an ideal world he'd like to cross over all his shows, but if it wasn't for reporters (or magazines like Variety) constantly asking about it, I'm sure he'd probably be content just to keep the focus on Supergirl alone for the moment. Just like CBS would.

 

[Christopher]

^That could be true as well. Reporters do have an unfortunate tendency to try to create and shape narratives rather than simply, you know, reporting what's actually happening.

 

[JD]

Even if reporters aren't asking about crossovers you know the fans will be at every comic con Berlanti or other producers go to, so it's probably best to just address it now.

 

[USS Triumphant]

I'm the only one who likes "DC Legends Universe?" I think it's classy. And it's inclusive rather than being specific to one character.

I like it, too - I just had to wait until I wouldn't be making a double post to say so.

Not all of Power Girl's costumes have had the window. And characters don't need to retain their most distinctive physical attributes when converted to the screen. If we can have a brown-haired (or brown-skinned) Jimmy Olsen, a 6'2" Wolverine with minimal body hair, and a beautiful Hermione Granger, we can have a small-breasted Power Girl.

Indeed, given the commonality of unusually large breasts in comic and video-game characters, there's a long history of busty characters being played by more normally endowed actresses -- Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft being probably the most famous example.

I honestly thought that Jolie was ideal for the role, given that Lara Croft's breasts have geometric and gravitational properties that can't actually exist in the real world (or at least, they did prior to Jolie's film version).

I understand what you're saying. I think I would be offended a little bit by a small breasted Power Girl, though. Strange as it might be to say, her endowment and the ways she deals with it and with the reactions to it are a part of her character, and she's a bit of a role model in that regard (when written and drawn properly - obviously some artists have had the mistaken impression that they were meant to be drawing a woman who had accidentally been grafted to two dirigibles as part of her superhero origin story). Beautiful and large busted might seem like a strange category to feel sorry for, but women like her get body shamed in their own way, too - often by other women - and get prejudicial reactions from some people who seem to assume that the ratio of brains plus breast size equals a fixed value somehow. A superheroine who has the powers of Superman but still has to put up with that crap is definitely something we haven't seen dealt with seriously on film - not to mention that the meta conversation that would result in the real world might be eye-opening for some.

That said, I'm just going to leave this here:

 

[Dick Whitman]

On Supergirl it occurred to me that Superman appearance in this could be similar to what was done with Jesus in the movie Ben-Hur. An actor plays Jesus in the movie but we never once see his face. The most we see of him are shoots of his back and other angles to his his face. He more of a presence through out the story.

I know other movies have used this technique for historical figures. I think that is this the most notable one.

Has anyone used this technique on fan films? It would be an interesting way to set a story in universe with new characters but suggesting iconic characters in small roles without recasting them.

 

[Thestral]

DC Legends Universe is clunky imo. Arrowverse is like Buffyverse - it rolls off the tongue and denotes the "starting point" as it were. DCWverse could work too though.

"Flarrowverse" though... just no, portmanteaus are for shipping purposes. Unless we wanna start talking about the Bangelverse and piss off the Spuffys.

 

[Christopher]

I understand what you're saying. I think I would be offended a little bit by a small breasted Power Girl, though. Strange as it might be to say, her endowment and the ways she deals with it and with the reactions to it are a part of her character, and she's a bit of a role model in that regard (when written and drawn properly - obviously some artists have had the mistaken impression that they were meant to be drawing a woman who had accidentally been grafted to two dirigibles as part of her superhero origin story). Beautiful and large busted might seem like a strange category to feel sorry for, but women like her get body shamed in their own way, too - often by other women - and get prejudicial reactions from some people who seem to assume that the ratio of brains plus breast size equals a fixed value somehow. A superheroine who has the powers of Superman but still has to put up with that crap is definitely something we haven't seen dealt with seriously on film - not to mention that the meta conversation that would result in the real world might be eye-opening for some.

That's an excellent point. Power Girl's proportions may have started out as a joke by an artist (to see how big he could get away with making her bust), but if later writers have actually turned it into something that has meaning for her character and is handled in a respectful way, then definitely there's value in preserving it in a screen adaptation.

And yes, there definitely is discrimination against women who happen to be beautiful or sexy -- constant attempts to judge them or define them by their surface appearance rather than who they are as people. I've always thought that's no better than judging or defining people by their skin color or their height or anything else.

DC Legends Universe is clunky imo.

No more so than "DC Animated Universe" or "Marvel Cinematic Universe." And just like those, it can be abbreviated -- DCLU is easier to write than "Arrowverse" (or the portmanteau that will not be named).

Arrowverse is like Buffyverse - it rolls off the tongue and denotes the "starting point" as it were.

Maybe, but out of the three shows, I feel Arrow is the least representative of what the universe has become.

DCWverse could work too though.

It seems to me that it should be DCCW, though.