Supergirl - Season Four
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Post-Byrne, during the "Time and Time Again" storyline (Superman is bouncing through time because of Booster Gold and the Linear Man), Superman does resort to using mirrors to shave when he can, though he invariably burns out the mirror's coating.
Meaning I believe Posey looks like her near fifty years (she will be 50 this November), and I'm guessing that's not what one would want as Lois opposite 30 year old Tyler Hoechlin. Unless there's some on-screen statement that Superman is far older than anyone imagined, it would be reasonable to assume he's around the actor's age, and if that's the case, then Lois should not be 20 years his senior, but somewhere around his age (at least that's the impression one gets from other productions, such as the Donner Superman film or the Lois and Clark TV series).
While the film business has a long history of casting older actors as younger characters, it does not always work when the actor's appearance does not play as the character's age. For example, I never thought Andrew Garfield was a believable high school-aged Peter Parker as he looked every bit his 27-28 years (his age during the production of The Amazing Spider-Man). There was no way he was some fresh-faced 17 year old by any stretch of the imagination. Instead of going that route with Lois, what's the problem with casting a good actress at least a bit closer to Hoechlin's age/appearance?
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I don't get that either. My first choice is Haley Attwell as I mentioned earlier.
And there are enough good actresses who are late 30 begin 40, I love Amy Adams and she is older than Henry Cavill
Lois is supposed to be an experienced reporter by the time Clark shows up on the scene with her Superman interview being her breakout story (in some incarnations). I think it would be great to portray Lois as being 7 to 10 years older than Clark for once.
I think it's more common for Lois to be already well-established when Clark shows up. Usually, the first story about Superman is Clark's breakout story, the journalistic coup that gets him the Planet job despite his lack of experience, which leads to Lois being jealous/competitive toward this upstart barging in on her turf and constantly beating her to Superman scoops. Originally, back in the late-'30s and early-'40s comics, Lois was relegated to girly stuff like the advice column and the style page and was trying to prove herself good enough to cover major news, but Clark kept being kind of a jerk to her, using his Super-advantage to get the big stories in before she could.
Later on, from Superman: The Movie onward, Lois was usually portrayed as an already accomplished, award-winning journalistic superstar when Clark showed up and became her competition. Lois does often get the first Superman interview, and it's a major coup, but it's far from the first in her career. That's the way it was done in the 1986 John Byrne comics reboot, in Lois & Clark, and in Superman: The Animated Series, at least. Even Smallville showed Lois pursuing a career at the Planet a few years before Clark followed suit.
Maybe Amy Adams will come do a few episodes as Lois Lane. I mean she once was on "Smallville." She played that season 1 Metor infected girl who was overweight and then lost the pounds and everyone was surprised she was sexy buy she couldn't stop eating because of the Krptonite and I think started to eat people or was going to eat people. A highlight of her career I assume but hey if she is willing to be part of two "Superman" things maybe she is a fan.
Jason
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The problem with Bosworth for me was her hair.
It was a really bad dye job.
But were we really ready for a blonde Lois Lane in 2005?
It was a really bad dye job.
But were we really ready for a blonde Lois Lane in 2005?
Atwell would be a very interesting choice, and I don't think anyone would say, "but she's too known as Peggy Carter". She's a strong actress who can deliver the mix of tough, ambitious and tender behavior toward Clark seen with some of the better actresses in the role.
You would be guessing wrong, since nobody else seems to have a problem with it...
Nice try turning it around, but this line of conversation came about from you having a problem, specifically with an older actress possibly playing a romantic interest for a younger actor. And I could go over your post line by line on why it isn't a problem, neither from in-universe chronology, nor from real world ages, but let's cut the bullshit, you're just being sexist and ageist here.
And I know you know that since you threw in that bit about Andrew Garfield just so you can say "look it's a man, no sexism", but sorry, no such luck
This really just boils down to your belief that men should be older than women in a relationship, which is archaic sexist crap. If this was a case of a 50 year old actor cast as a romantic partner for a 30 something actress you wouldn't bat an eye. You know it, I know it, everyone here knows it, so let's not go through the charade of denying it, alright?In any case, the second season of Lost in Space is shooting now, so no chance of Parker playing Lois anyway, and the casting call is for a 30 year old actress so you can rest easy, your views will not be challenged by this show, at least age-wise in this instance.
Hoechlin's Clark was 36 years old when we met him in the premiere of Season 2, so he is around 39 years old as of Season 4.
The Bullshit Tricorder just exploded...and dodge's post is the reason why...
What "no one else?" Anyone involved with casting? Here? There's already other men[mer's choices for actreses other than Posey,, so you have no point...not an unusual position for you. No one would be incorrect in saying Parker Posey would not be selected for Lois Lane. Cry
Only you have the problem, since your quotes in my reply are filled with your typical flames and politicized nonsense.
In several casting examples of Clark and Lois, the performers have been around the same age:
One, no one said or implied that, so you are full of crap with lies & flaming.
Two, what is not crap is that for all of your would-be Throne of Judgement finger pointing, I will return the favor and remind you of your real issues: your White Privilege mindset (recognized by another member) in the Black Lighting thread where you dropped your utterly false "toxic masculinity" crap on a black character (Khalil) without even a particle of understanding the struggles of young black males and why he made the choices seen in the show--which were all there to be seen in script and performance, but that did not matter to you, as you were sitting on that Throne of Judgement about a kind of person (and character) you know absolutely nothing about, so you fell back on a common racist charge against young black males shared by too many privileged white liberals as well as conservatives.
Don't try to explain or defend it. You are what you are--a racist, and no amount or combination of the usual caught-in-the-headlights lefty excuses of "W-w-well...I voted for..." / "I hate fill in the politician / actor / author / object of your hate)" or screaming about your favorite left wing causes can erase what you were doing in the Black Lightning thread. Unlike your fantasy of some "old man/young woman" desire (which no one said or implied). your racist mischaracterization of the Khalil character was splattered all over that thread and is there to be seen.
Where is the proof of this casting desire? Nowhere, its a lie, like your every word in this thread.
You would be guessing wrong, since nobody else seems to have a problem with it...
What "no one else?" Anyone involved with casting? Here? There's already other men[mer's choices for actreses other than Posey,, so you have no point...not an unusual position for you. No one would be incorrect in saying Parker Posey would not be selected for Lois Lane. Cry
Only you have the problem, since your quotes in my reply are filled with your typical flames and politicized nonsense.
In several casting examples of Clark and Lois, the performers have been around the same age:
- Dean Cain (born 1966) / Teri Hatcher (born 1964)
- Christopher Reeve (born 1952) . Margot Kidder (born 1948)
- George Reeves (born 1914) / Noel Neill (born 1920)
- Brandon Routh (born 1979) / Kate Bosworth (born 1983)
One, no one said or implied that, so you are full of crap with lies & flaming.
Two, what is not crap is that for all of your would-be Throne of Judgement finger pointing, I will return the favor and remind you of your real issues: your White Privilege mindset (recognized by another member) in the Black Lighting thread where you dropped your utterly false "toxic masculinity" crap on a black character (Khalil) without even a particle of understanding the struggles of young black males and why he made the choices seen in the show--which were all there to be seen in script and performance, but that did not matter to you, as you were sitting on that Throne of Judgement about a kind of person (and character) you know absolutely nothing about, so you fell back on a common racist charge against young black males shared by too many privileged white liberals as well as conservatives.
Don't try to explain or defend it. You are what you are--a racist, and no amount or combination of the usual caught-in-the-headlights lefty excuses of "W-w-well...I voted for..." / "I hate fill in the politician / actor / author / object of your hate)" or screaming about your favorite left wing causes can erase what you were doing in the Black Lightning thread. Unlike your fantasy of some "old man/young woman" desire (which no one said or implied). your racist mischaracterization of the Khalil character was splattered all over that thread and is there to be seen.
Where is the proof of this casting desire? Nowhere, its a lie, like your every word in this thread.
Having a list of other possibilities does not equate to "having a problem" though. I personally read the exchange as being about the attitudes of people posting here (might be wrong), based on which there seems to be quite a lot of approval for the idea of Posey.
Any reason thought that the idea of an older Lois (or even an older actress playing a younger Lois) is so objectionable? It's hardly as if Posey couldn't pass for a woman in her 30s?
I remember all this and there's a real risk of a derail here, but I don't recall you really presenting a reason why Khalil being black made the interpretation of the character fundamentally different per se. When legitimately asked about how you'd see the character playing out differently as an economically disadvantaged white man (and crucially, how and why any judgement would change as a consequence of skin colour) you were at best vague. This isn't meant as an attack, but rather a question about how you saw that thread in such a different light to others posting there.
Its never been dodge's BS about that, since Hatcher and Kidder were both slightly older than their co-stars, but in terms of the characters, they should be around the same age, which is why that list goes to prove casting had that in mind as well.
Let me ask you the following: would you accept Charlie Sheen (52) as Kent/Superman opposite Ariana Grande (25) as Lois? I don't know about you, but if that happened, rest assured, there would be an uproar powerful enough to shatter Mount Rushmore--and it would be justified only on the grounds that Kent and Lois should be/look around the same age.
If you think Posey does not look her age, fine, but I do not, and next to Tyler Hoechlin, it would be as apparent as the Sheen/Grande example.
Then you did not read it carefully, as I pointed out Khalil's position / lack of options in life as a young black male and what he faced if he did not accept Tobias' intervention, along with why he was behaving in the manner presented. There was no "toxic masculinity" about that, but leave it to dodge to fall back on that racist judgement of young black males. Its just another (current) way of dog-whistling / labeling young black males as "dangerous", and I've seen this kind of destructive judgement in the real world for far too long to believe its stems from anything else but a racist belief in this society.
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Here's the link, by the way, if nothing else it certainly demonstrates that your outbursts like this one here are hardly a unique occurrence...
You do realize the whole idea of re-imagining something is too shake things up to a degree? Why can't they have a couple of decades between their ages? Why must they always be a couple years apart?
FWIW, it's not "always." Amy Adams is nine years older than Henry Cavill. To me, it's part of what makes their dynamic charged and sexy, and a highlight of the DCEU.
