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? I'm amazed I didn't that or get the joke until recently.
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? I'm amazed I didn't that or get the joke until recently.
I hadn't thought about who to cast for this role, but from the other things I've seen her in, yeah, I think she'll do fine.
I guess Lexa Luthor would be too on-the-nose. I'm not familiar with the character but it seems kind of right that Supergirl wouldn't deal with Lex as he's not only associated with Superman but seems a little too heavy for the tone of the show. Then again, he always seems to be portrayed in some wacky manner (or just "whack" in BvS) in the movies.
Lena originated in the comics in 1960. She was known as Lena Thorul, because her parents had changed the family name out of shame at having a supercriminal for a son (but still chose an alias that was an obvious anagram because they were 1960s comic-book characters). Her parents died before they could tell her the truth, and Lex tried to keep her from ever finding out they were related, because Silver Age Lex had a decent streak and didn't want his sister hurt by the knowledge that she was the sister of the world's greatest villain.
It depends on the era. As I said, Silver Age Luthor wasn't all that bad; sometimes it was suggested that he could've even been a great hero if not for his obsessive vendetta against Superman.
And really, Max Lord in season 1 was basically a knockoff of the billionaire-inventor version of Luthor, although he turned out to be more redeemable. He even created Bizarro, something that Luthor is traditionally responsible for.
While I 'get' the comparisons between Lex and Max, there's this presumption, I think, inherent in the 'criticisms' of Max's role in Season 1 that they characterized him the way that they did because they were 'forbidden' from actually using Lex when, in fact, they could've used Lex in a heartbeat if they'd so chosen.
Sure, but -- they probably wanted to avoid characters like Lex in their first season for reasons of their own. They wanted to establish Supergirl as her own character, not just a sideshow to the Man of Steel. So they didn't have to be "forbidden" from doing it in order to declare it off-limits themselves. It's the same reason they kept Superman himself at a distance, literally and figuratively. Now that the show has successfully established itself, though, it's able to bring in more core elements from the Superman mythos, including Supes himself, Metropolis, and Lex Luthor (although I doubt Lex will appear, at least not in the premiere, since we would've heard the casting news by now). Not to mention Cadmus, which will presumably play a bigger role this coming season.
...by using Superman villains such as Toyman or Bizarro? How plots that did not start in any Supergirl comic, such as the Project Cadmus stories, which was introduced (original form) in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #133 from 1970, or the post-Crisis version from Superman Annual #2? "For the Girl Who Has Everything" --adapted from another Superman story. Many significant parts of the SG's series are built on Superman's world.
^ The amount of villains that the Kara Zor-El Supergirl has that are exclusively her own can be counted on one hand.
She really is intrinsically tied to Superman, so what they ended up doing was to take characters from the "Super"-mythos that are more traditionally associated first and foremost with her cousin and repurpose them in a way that associated them specifically with her... and I don't see that as a bad thing or as her 'living in her cousin's shadow'.
She really is intrinsically tied to Superman, so what they ended up doing was to take characters from the "Super"-mythos that are more traditionally associated first and foremost with her cousin and repurpose them in a way that associated them specifically with her... and I don't see that as a bad thing or as her 'living in her cousin's shadow'.
Which is so obvious that I felt no need to call attention to it. Supergirl herself is derived from Superman. That's a given. Hell, the entire superhero genre is derived from Superman.
My point is that they limited how heavily the show rode on core elements of the Superman mythos. Yes, it's used supporting characters like Jimmy Olsen, Cat Grant, and Lucy Lane, and secondary or derivative villains like Non, Indigo, Toyman, and the Supergirl Bizarro, but hasn't used the most central characters and elements like Superman/Clark, Lois, Lex, and Metropolis. (Jimmy Olsen was a central character on radio in the '40s, TV in the '50s, and comics in the '50s-'70s, but has become less so in modern times.) Now, with the show having successfully carved out its own corner of the mythos, it's in a more secure place from which to start delving into those core elements.
Just a thought on Lena...wasn't there speculation before Supergirl started that Alex Danvers was actually Lex Luthor's sister (but she perhaps didn't know it)? And this sisterly relationship with go awry, like the Superboy/Luthor friendship went?
Don't know if that was ever actually considered....but I guess that is not going to be a future plotline.
I hope they don't simply make her a female Lex, but give her some special talents & personality different than Lex. (And also not make her bald -- though a joke with a swimming cap or some other temporary situation would be welcome)
Don't know if that was ever actually considered....but I guess that is not going to be a future plotline.
I hope they don't simply make her a female Lex, but give her some special talents & personality different than Lex. (And also not make her bald -- though a joke with a swimming cap or some other temporary situation would be welcome)
A few of us thought that Alex would go bad and become Kara/Supergirl's nemesis. I don't recall anyone thinking that she was Lex's sister.
The twist will be that Lena causes Alex to go bald.
Well, I think the Lex in her name....
Alex was a tipoff to her potential status as a villain, not an indication that she was a Luthor.
The comics' Lena has never been "a female Lex." There have been a few different versions -- the post-Crisis continuity's Lena was actually Lex's infant daughter (named after his dead foster sister) who at one point was aged up and taken over by Brainiac -- but there's never been a version where she was just Lex Luthor in a dress. The classic version was Lex's diametric opposite, the pure and innocent sister that Lex wanted to protect from the taint of his villainy. The modern version, apparently, is a paraplegic that Lex has tried to cure.
Here's ComicsAlliance's brief overview of the character: http://comicsalliance.com/crash-course-lena-luthor-supergirl/
Of course, the show doesn't have to follow comics precedent -- look how different Max Lord is in the show -- but the point is that turning Lena into She-Lex would be a radical departure from anything that's ever been done with the character before (that I know of), so there's no reason to assume that will be the direction they take.
Tess in Smallville turned out to be a surprise Luthor.
It would require time travel and brainwashing to trick the Danvers into believing that not their daughter is there daughter, because Superman would notice if anyone was a robot.
It would require time travel and brainwashing to trick the Danvers into believing that not their daughter is there daughter, because Superman would notice if anyone was a robot.
I don't know much about Lena Luthor but the more I look at Tyler Hoechlin in these pics (and with this costume) the more I am convinced that he is Superman. I can't wait to see him in action. And I hope we see more of him in Season 2.
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Supergirl and Superman together
^ Those two do look pretty damn cool together. 
Agreed. I really don't understand this resistance some people have to the writers reimagining or repurposing some of these villains and storylines for this show. Superhero movies and TV series have been reimagining characters and storylines from the beginning in one way or another (even the supposedly more "faithful" ones), and this doesn't seem any different to me.
And the fact she's in the same Superman Family and the villains still retain the same basic motivation and characterization as before makes it seem like even more of a non-issue. Not to mention that we're not talking about super iconic characters here like a Lex or Joker.
Agreed. I really don't understand this resistance some people have to the writers reimagining or repurposing some of these villains and storylines for this show. Superhero movies and TV series have been reimagining characters and storylines from the beginning in one way or another (even the supposedly more "faithful" ones), and this doesn't seem any different to me.
And the fact she's in the same Superman Family and the villains still retain the same basic motivation and characterization as before makes it seem like even more of a non-issue. Not to mention that we're not talking about super iconic characters here like a Lex or Joker.
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