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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

Something just occurred to me. If Mxy was all-powerful, why didn't he just stop the self-destruct countdown at the Fortress? Or if he wanted to save Supergirl, he could've teleported her away to another location.
 
I happen to love Q and Mxyzptlk. Ever since Q's introduction Trekkies accuse Mxy of being a rip off when he is adapted to other media. I imagine Superman fans thought the same of Trelane and Q! It's very possible Roddenberry never heard of Mr Mxyzptlk. All three characters ar merely drawing on the same influences from mythology and legends. Imps, Genies, and leprechauns. Which all are part of the concept of a Trickster figure which exists in many different cultures. Many Superman experts figure Jerry Siegel was inspired by the mischievous Bugs Bunny in creating Mr Mxyzptlk. Another character who fits the Trickster archetype.
 
Something just occurred to me. If Mxy was all-powerful, why didn't he just stop the self-destruct countdown at the Fortress? Or if he wanted to save Supergirl, he could've teleported her away to another location.

When Mxy showed up at the beginning, he said he could do anything except a few things, including compelling someone to fall in love with him, preventing someone from killing themselves, and "making them drink orange juice, for some reason" (which was why she was so pointedly drinking orange juice when she arrived at the Fortress). When Supergirl started the reactor overload, she reminded him that he wasn't allowed to stop her from killing herself. I guess it's some sort of 5th-dimensional Prime Directive for protecting the free will of 3-dimensional beings.
 
I wouldn't really describe Maggie as butch, she seems very feminine to me. :shrug:
Not quite sure why you're getting that impression, women have been wearing pants for a long time now :p

I have a very good friend who's extremely "butch", and, personality-wise, Maggie very much reminds me of her. Yes, she can "clean up good", but, personality-wise, she's very masculine in the way she interacts with people, especially Alex.
 
I'm not sure why she didn't just tell him that the password was his name in reverse and have him say it outloud? She already had him backed into a corner with the whole "we'll die without the password" bit. It was a fine catch-22 as is and didn't really need the added layer of tricking him into spelling it out in Kryptonian.

personally, I thought she was going to go through with the marriage ceremony, but tell him she wrote the vows and just wanted him to read his part without looking at it first - and then include his name backwards in them or something to that effect.

Also, I don't think they ever established how long he's barred from returning after being so banished in this universe. Wasn't it a month (30 days) in most of the comics?

Yep, that was a fun slice of Silver Age goodness.

Bring on Streaky the Super-Cat!
I thought Supergirl had a Super Horse? ;)
 
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Yes, she can "clean up good", but, personality-wise, she's very masculine in the way she interacts with people, especially Alex.

I think it's pretty outdated to equate being assertive, strong-willed, confident, physically and emotionally tough, etc. with masculinity.


Also, I don't think they ever established how long he's barred from returning after being so banished in this universe. Wasn't it a month (30 days) in most of the comics?

It was 90 days.


I thought Supergirl had a Super Horse? ;)

She had Streaky the Supercat and Comet the Super-Horse (who was actually a centaur cursed into horse form except occasionally when he would take on human form and romance Supergirl without revealing his true identity so, yes, she was romantically involved with her horse).
 
I think it's pretty outdated to equate being assertive, strong-willed, confident, physically and emotionally tough, etc. with masculinity.

I love the friend I mentioned with all my heart (she's my best friend's sister, and somebody I've known since the early '90s), so describing her as "butch" is by no means meant to be an insult. It's just who she is, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Same thing goes for Maggie on Supergirl.
 
She had Streaky the Supercat and Comet the Super-Horse (who was actually a centaur cursed into horse form except occasionally when he would take on human form and romance Supergirl without revealing his true identity so, yes, she was romantically involved with her horse).

And, unlike Krypto, Streaky was not Kryptonian, but was an ordinary Earth cat who gained super-powers after being exposed to some odd variant of Kryptonite. As I recall, Streaky's powers came and went irregularly.

And then, of course, there was Beppo the Super-Monkey, but he didn't have anything to do with Supergirl .
 
The Kara/Mon-El plot this week -- and why does no one call him Lar Gand? -- was pretty obvious. It was written as a screwball romantic comedy, it was shot as a screwball romantic comedy (the fight in the DEO prompted the thought, "They are so obviously going to have an Earth-shaking shag by the end of tonight"), and when Mon-El went to Kara's apartment the result felt like a foregone conclusion.

Yet, I couldn't help but think how awkward this is all going to be when Mon-El goes in the Phantom Zone for a thousand years, meets Shadow Lass and has an epic, Legion-defining romance, and then Kara comes to the 31st-century via time travel.
 
Yet, I couldn't help but think how awkward this is all going to be when Mon-El goes in the Phantom Zone for a thousand years, meets Shadow Lass and has an epic, Legion-defining romance, and then Kara comes to the 31st-century via time travel.

She'll have Brainiac 5 to console her. :)
 
I love the friend I mentioned with all my heart (she's my best friend's sister, and somebody I've known since the early '90s), so describing her as "butch" is by no means meant to be an insult. It's just who she is, and there's nothing wrong with that.

You didn't say "butch" in the passage I quoted, you said "masculine." I disagree that Maggie's behavior is masculine. The modern definition of femininity has expanded to accommodate behaviors that would once have been interpreted as unique to men, and society is the better for it. (And if we get to the point where the definition of masculinity expands enough to include tenderness, vulnerability, emotional openness, etc., then we'll really be getting somewhere.)
 
Honestly, I think that's a minority opinion where Q is concerned. My impression has always been that Q is very popular with Trekkies. My own Q novels are still probably my best-selling books, even after all these years, and I'm humble enough to admit that it's the continuing appeal of the character that keeps selling those books, year after year. And I'm still kinda puzzled as to why they never included in him in any of the TNG movies since he was probably their second-most popular antagonist after the Borg.

He's a lot of fun to boot. DeLancie brought a welcome degree of snark that contrasted nicely with the general earnestness of Picard and his crew. (I always enjoyed writing Q's dialogue, especially when he was taking the piss out of Riker or whomever.)

And Q had a pretty good track record on the show overall: "Tapestry," "Q Who?," "All Good Things," etc. Those were all good episodes.

Granted, he was a bit more problematic on VOYAGER since they had to keep ducking the issue of why he couldn't just whisk Voyager home in a blink, but DeLancie was always entertaining anyway. (He was also perfectly cast as the Devil on an episode of THE LIBRARIANS.)

But I digress. Back to SUPERGIRL . . . .
He also makes an entertaining Sinestro in Duck Dodgers.
 
Oh, is Winn's new friend Lyra from the comics? She's not ringing any bells but I don't claim to have read every SUPERGIRL comic published over the last few decades.
 
The Kara/Mon-El plot this week -- and why does no one call him Lar Gand? .
It's been hinted at that what he has told Kara about how he left Daxam and his life there is a complete lie. At this point I lost track of what are actual spoilers and just fan speculation. It's rumored that Teri Hatcher and Kevin Sorbo will be playing his parents. Daxam royalty. I do not think it's too much a reach to think Mon-El is not his real name. It would explain why the writers did not use his real name of Lar Gand yet if he hiding his real identity.
 
Funny, Supergirl and Mon-El are such a natural match-up I'm amazed that it never happened in the comics (at least while I was reading them). Now as for Mr. M. he could have looked as he did, or like a little man in a derby hat. I think that he chose his appearance in an attempt to appeal to Kara. But there is evidence to suggest that his actual appearance is not either of those.
 
Yes, she can "clean up good", but, personality-wise, she's very masculine in the way she interacts with people, especially Alex.

I disagree, I know the ideas of what is masculine or feminine vary widely from person to person, but...

I think it's pretty outdated to equate being assertive, strong-willed, confident, physically and emotionally tough, etc. with masculinity.

...pretty much this.

I just don't see anything inherently masculine about her personality or behaviour. :shrug:

As for butch, that's actually a term in the lesbian community that some women use to express their identity, generally it is mostly used by women who visibly display masculine traits like short hair, no makeup and who wear men's clothing and have a more "manly" attitude and body language, though there isn't any one agreed upon definition. Some lesbians think of the term as integral to their identity and are proud of it, and some lesbians find such classification inappropriate, even hurtful because it suggests an appropriation of male behaviour by women. So in such matters, unless a person declares themselves as such, it's always best not to arbitrarily assign labels.
 
I'd like to see Maggie at her job. I really liked her, Alex, and Kara working together on a case or something, like what happened with Livewire.
 
Between the makeup design on the two bar toughs and the blonde coming in from nowhere to kick them to smithereens, for one lovely moment I thought I was watching BTVS again. ;)
 
Oh, is Winn's new friend Lyra from the comics? She's not ringing any bells but I don't claim to have read every SUPERGIRL comic published over the last few decades.

Apparently she's an original character. Her full name is Lyla Strayd.


As for butch, that's actually a term in the lesbian community that some women use to express their identity, generally it is mostly used by women who visibly display masculine traits like short hair, no makeup and who wear men's clothing and have a more "manly" attitude and body language, though there isn't any one agreed upon definition.

That sounds about right. Maggie definitely has a feminine look -- she does nothing to make herself appear more masculine. I don't think the word "butch" as I understand it fits her at all. And you're right that it would be inappropriate to presume to apply the label to someone without knowing their preference.
 
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