I did not see a stand alone ad either. If not, it still says CBS is not promoting the series as a stand alone to one of the biggest TV audiences.
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I did not see a stand alone ad either. If not, it still says CBS is not promoting the series as a stand alone to one of the biggest TV audiences.
You know you're not obligated to watch, right?Especially if it clearly pains you that much to watch.
Personally I have so many great shows to watch or catch up on these days that I don't have time anymore for something I'm not in some way enjoying.
Maybe he's trying to give it a chance, but he's merely noting the reasons for doing so are not strong. Nothing wrong in that.
That was basically the point of my question. When they did advertise the network, they talked about the number one comedy (Big Bang), number one drama (NCIS), and there was no mention at all about Supergirl. You would think if you wanted a ratings boost you would advertise it at least once as a stand alone. It felt like the series was an afterthought. And for all those who say "There was a Super Bowl last night" and didn't watch, It scored a 49.0 rating/73 share according to TV by the numbers. Most of the country did see it.
That ad which had clips from episodes of Supergirl was clearly not an ad for Supergirl the tv series as it stands, or the episodes those clips were taken from.
THAT WAS A LIE!
Supergirl is a quirky office comedy, the relationship between two sisters, and few interlocking love triangles... Oh and for 3 minutes a week she flies about punching someone in a colourful costume.
That ad there, was about a dark world under siege by assholes turning central city to a hell on Earth and maybe only Supergirl has the strength to stand up to all the forces of darkness maligned against her if she balls all her will and desperation to overcome the endless battery of evil pressed again the Earth to destroy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That was an ad for a video game where shit is always blowing up.
That was an ad to get boys to watch.
Stupid waste of 5 million dollars (CBS doesn't pay, I get it, but when some one gives you a free car, you still wonder "is it a free 5 thousand dollar car or a free 40 thousand dollar car?") .
You should have doubled down on women CBS, and made an accurate ad for Supergirl the TV series which will bring in a new audience that wants to watch a remake of Ally McBeal... Which is something men will watch, because it's clever and adorable and a little sexy.
What that ad is going to do is bring in 15 million fratboy jerks, and old men that used to be frat boy jerks who want to see a woman get beat up monsters, and then wonder what the fuck this is before they change the channel during the opening credits.
THAT WAS A LIE!
Supergirl is a quirky office comedy, the relationship between two sisters, and few interlocking love triangles... Oh and for 3 minutes a week she flies about punching someone in a colourful costume.
That ad there, was about a dark world under siege by assholes turning central city to a hell on Earth and maybe only Supergirl has the strength to stand up to all the forces of darkness maligned against her if she balls all her will and desperation to overcome the endless battery of evil pressed again the Earth to destroy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That was an ad for a video game where shit is always blowing up.
That was an ad to get boys to watch.
Stupid waste of 5 million dollars (CBS doesn't pay, I get it, but when some one gives you a free car, you still wonder "is it a free 5 thousand dollar car or a free 40 thousand dollar car?") .
You should have doubled down on women CBS, and made an accurate ad for Supergirl the TV series which will bring in a new audience that wants to watch a remake of Ally McBeal... Which is something men will watch, because it's clever and adorable and a little sexy.
What that ad is going to do is bring in 15 million fratboy jerks, and old men that used to be frat boy jerks who want to see a woman get beat up monsters, and then wonder what the fuck this is before they change the channel during the opening credits.
But people are saying they did in fact advertise it, so what's the problem again?
The Superbowl gets a 47, and Supergirl get s a 1.7?
Maybe there should be an episode where Supergirl plays football for 40 minutes?
Maybe there should be an episode where Supergirl plays football for 40 minutes?
Wasn't Supergirl #1 New drama or something? If so, yeah...it'd be dumb not to mention it. I mean... Big Bang especially appeals to NON-Sports fans...so why not SUpergirl?
That's the point --use this opportunity to boost up rating..especially with the big push of acknowledging women watch football... a commercial could've have been paired with the new campaign (or even integrate it)
Point of clarity: There was a Superbowl ad.
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You know you're not obligated to watch, right?
Personally I have so many great shows to watch or catch up on these days that I don't have time anymore for something I'm not in some way enjoying.
I'm pretty much obliged until after The Flash crossover. I'm in a drought of shows right now, anyway. Agents of SHIELD is being preempted by the horrible Agent Carter, so I'm down to: The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow and the (non-superhero, well mostly non-superhero) Venture Brothers as the only good shows on TV that are airing new episodes right now. I guess Daredevil Season 2 will be coming next month, but that's different then an ongoing TV show. I could probably just drop Supergirl right now and then watch the crossover episode by itself. Its not like anything changes from week to week on Supergirl, so skipping 3-5 episodes probably won't make me even remotely lost.
NBC's Blindspot holds the title of the fall's number 1 new show.
Also produced by Berlanti and Warner Bros btw.....
That reminds me of a '70s JLA issue in which the Leaguers were participating in a telethon. Black Canary (IIRC) announced an upcoming demonstration game of three NFL teams vs. Superman.
Wait, what? You wanted CBS to put on a Supergirl rerun instead of a live broadcast of The Late Show which included some further Superbowl discussion?
I'm sorry, but even if it was somehow THE most watched show in America and an American Idol (in its heydey) level juggernaut, there's no way that happens.I think people are looking for cause to be concerned when there is none. There was specific Supergirl promotion as Locutus pointed out, plus a spot advertising the Monday lineup in general. They didn't include it in the "#1 _____" bit, because I presume it's not a number 1 new in anything?
And they sure as hell wouldn't deny a Captain America ad if Marvel bought the airspace. Aside from it being just generally a crappy business decision, why would they start a fight with Disney/ABC/ESPN/etc. for no good reason?
Carla... Now Cat's just needling her.
"For the Girl Who Has Everything"--
Benoist's performance: She lacks the acting depth to hold up her end of the episode--when it was supposed to challenge Kara's needs for a family, and have it justified by her decision to return to reality.
Kara/Supergirl: If she finds out Alex killed Bad Aunt, will that create an irreparable rift?
Hank: Solid as usual. his taking the blame for Bad Aunt's death--once again--makes him, a bigger hero than most on the show.
James: Asserting his relationship to Kara (to Hank) was a nice moment, along with his pleading on the behalf of Alex. Now that he (and Winn) have been in the DEO, I wonder where this will go.
Alex: The importance of a family bond was stronger with Alex than in any of Kara's scenes on Krypton.
Her running Bad Aunt through was not as potent as it was meant to be. For example the same move worked with far greater effect on The Walking Dead when Michonne killed the Governor.
Bad Aunt--and her man: Silly that she thinks Supergirl would be the only opposition in a world with....Superman. Come on.
Lord: Too predicable way of letting Lord loose. His deceiver / betrayer act (in general) will only intensify, and that's not anything to look forward to.
Winn: Did he ever friendzone himself at the end of this episode.
Overall, the episode was effective 60%. However, if anything, it shatters the common myth that animation cannot surpass drama and characterization in live action, as Justice League Unlimited's second episode, the adaptation of "For the Man Who Has Everything" (also based on Superman Annual #11) was the superior effort. In that episode, the love and desperation for Batman & Wonder Woman to help Superman was evident--one felt they had a deep history and connection. Additionally, Kal-El's mounting sadness over the fantasy falling apart (losing his imaginary child), and subsequent rage at Mongul for taking him to Krypton was pure emotional scripting success.
Even in these brief clips--
--the drama surpassed anything in this episode, but SG was a nice effort.
Benoist's performance: She lacks the acting depth to hold up her end of the episode--when it was supposed to challenge Kara's needs for a family, and have it justified by her decision to return to reality.
Kara/Supergirl: If she finds out Alex killed Bad Aunt, will that create an irreparable rift?
Hank: Solid as usual. his taking the blame for Bad Aunt's death--once again--makes him, a bigger hero than most on the show.
James: Asserting his relationship to Kara (to Hank) was a nice moment, along with his pleading on the behalf of Alex. Now that he (and Winn) have been in the DEO, I wonder where this will go.
Alex: The importance of a family bond was stronger with Alex than in any of Kara's scenes on Krypton.
Her running Bad Aunt through was not as potent as it was meant to be. For example the same move worked with far greater effect on The Walking Dead when Michonne killed the Governor.
Bad Aunt--and her man: Silly that she thinks Supergirl would be the only opposition in a world with....Superman. Come on.
Lord: Too predicable way of letting Lord loose. His deceiver / betrayer act (in general) will only intensify, and that's not anything to look forward to.
Winn: Did he ever friendzone himself at the end of this episode.
Overall, the episode was effective 60%. However, if anything, it shatters the common myth that animation cannot surpass drama and characterization in live action, as Justice League Unlimited's second episode, the adaptation of "For the Man Who Has Everything" (also based on Superman Annual #11) was the superior effort. In that episode, the love and desperation for Batman & Wonder Woman to help Superman was evident--one felt they had a deep history and connection. Additionally, Kal-El's mounting sadness over the fantasy falling apart (losing his imaginary child), and subsequent rage at Mongul for taking him to Krypton was pure emotional scripting success.
Even in these brief clips--
--the drama surpassed anything in this episode, but SG was a nice effort.
So now James and Winn know what "Hank" can do? Or they're awfully dense if they didn't figure it out after a couple of exchanges with him in the room that they participated in.
Well, this wasn't as impressive as I'd hoped. I wanted to see more of Kara's fantasy life on Krypton, but I guess there are budgetary reasons why they can't spend too much time there. I mean, really, the premise makes more sense for Kara, who lived half her life on Krypton, than it did for Superman in the original Alan Moore story, because he had little or no firsthand memory of Krypton. And it was an actually idyllic life (what little we saw of it), unlike the bizarrely dystopian Krypton Moore portrayed. (Really, I never understood that. Why establish that the Black Mercy gives Superman his ideal fantasy and then make it so horrible?) I was hoping this would be as good as the Justice League Unlimited version of "For the Man Who Has Everything," which I thought worked much better than the original comic (not only was it genuinely an idyllic fantasy life there, but it was an amalgam of the things Clark valued in his Earthly life and the things he could've had on Krypton, which made so much more sense). But since we spent so little time on Krypton, and since most of it was the stock "convincing the hero that her reality was just a dream" stuff we've seen in a hundred other stories using this trope, it felt like a missed opportunity. I really wanted more exploration of what life on Krypton was like.
What they did capture well was the aftermath -- the fury at the person who used the Black Mercy, the pain at having to lose Krypton all over again. Maybe Kara's attack on Non wasn't as devastating as Superman's on Mongul, but Benoist conveyed the rage very well. Again, though, it felt underexplored because it gave way to the arc stuff with Astra and Myriad. Sometimes I wish Berlanti shows weren't so serialized and would take the time to really explore a single plot in a single episode, rather than trying to keep half a dozen balls in the air at once.
The ending of Astra's arc was pretty effective, and quite unexpected. Some good drama and character interplay there. Although I have to wonder where the DEO is getting all this kryptonite from.
I'm surprised at what a bad job J'onn did playing Kara. I guess he had more time to research Hank Henshaw's life before beginning his impersonation.
And why did they leave the Black Mercy just lying there on the floor? They should've gotten it into a biohazard containment thingy right away. I kept expecting it to jump on J'onn or Max or somebody.
What they did capture well was the aftermath -- the fury at the person who used the Black Mercy, the pain at having to lose Krypton all over again. Maybe Kara's attack on Non wasn't as devastating as Superman's on Mongul, but Benoist conveyed the rage very well. Again, though, it felt underexplored because it gave way to the arc stuff with Astra and Myriad. Sometimes I wish Berlanti shows weren't so serialized and would take the time to really explore a single plot in a single episode, rather than trying to keep half a dozen balls in the air at once.
The ending of Astra's arc was pretty effective, and quite unexpected. Some good drama and character interplay there. Although I have to wonder where the DEO is getting all this kryptonite from.
I'm surprised at what a bad job J'onn did playing Kara. I guess he had more time to research Hank Henshaw's life before beginning his impersonation.
And why did they leave the Black Mercy just lying there on the floor? They should've gotten it into a biohazard containment thingy right away. I kept expecting it to jump on J'onn or Max or somebody.
Who said anything about a rerun. Put on a new episode.
So a free $5,000,000.00 ad tricks a bunch of jocks into tuning into part two of a double episode?
No forethought there, whatsoever.
No forethought there, whatsoever.
It was hard to tell from the lighting, but it looked like the Black Mercy shriveled up and died once it fell off Kara.
Um. Why did Astra die? Shouldn't she have started healing as soon as Alex pulled the knife out?