The reveal was by Lance who is a core cast member who then passed it on to the general public. The first time he bought the subsequent cover story and remained oblivious for quite a while.
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The reveal was by Lance who is a core cast member who then passed it on to the general public. The first time he bought the subsequent cover story and remained oblivious for quite a while.
I do remember that, thank you. The first time, he believed Oliver was the vigilante, but he didn't actually have confirmation. After all, the whole thing was Ollie's ploy to throw suspicion off himself by making it look like he was the Hood and then "disproving" it. So it doesn't count as an instance of the hero's identity being truly revealed, which is why I didn't mention it. Once Lance really found out last season, he continued to be in the know from then on.
Besides, that's one example. I'm talking about the larger overall pattern in Berlanti shows, which is that most or all of the core cast eventually ends up in on the secret. I mean, heck, most shows would've had Kara keep her secret from Winn and kept Cat in the dark for a few seasons at least. This show is clearly not following the usual formula.
Yeah, not sure of which network it was anymore, but the network TV showing of that "super longer version" was the only time I've seen that footage. I'd seen stills prior to that of the guard costume, which had been totally cut from the original theatrical release, and I was pumped to catch the extra footage. There were several scenes involving it. At least part of one of those scenes has been integrated into a more recent cut of the film, in which they teleport the guard off to make sure that Jor-El is complying with the council; same (or very similar) costume, different guard.
I think that this may be their way of getting "Why doesn't Cat figure it out?" out of the way, and that she will be made to forget or to believe that they're separate people.
No, I think she will stay in the know. Cat's mentor/surrogate-mother relationship to Kara and Supergirl is one of the most important character dynamics in the show, and it was already blurring the line between Kara's two identities; I think it was always heading this way, and that the relationship will be able to develop more fully now that the secret's out.
And as I said, I think that having Cat figure it out as a result of an incident in which Kara saved Cat from having her own secrets revealed was done deliberately by the writers to give Cat an added incentive to respect Kara's secret and not share it with the public. The symmetry can't be a coincidence, not when these writers clearly love their character symmetries (e.g. Kara learning about Cat giving up her firstborn son at the same time that she's wrestling with her resentment toward Alura for giving her up). So Cat will keep the secret, thus there's no reason for Cat not to know the truth.
We'll see. I think that they left things conspicuously open for a potential fake-out scheme...plus they have a recently revealed telepathic shapeshifter waiting to show his stuff, and it would be a great way for him to let Kara in on the secret and earn her trust.
On the contrary -- I think they showed that Cat is too perceptive and canny to fall for that kind of scheme as easily as other characters would. At most, she might end up in the equivalent role to Lois in the Silver Age comics and George Reeves series -- suspecting the dual identity but unable to prove it. But I don't think that would serve the characters' relationship well.
I've felt for a while now that it was inevitable that Cat would learn eventually; in fact, I'd suspected that she'd known all along but was respecting Kara's privacy. The only surprise is that it happened so soon. But Berlanti shows do seem to get on with things pretty quickly.
With the general public, maybe. With Cat? Again, I don't see that serving the characters well.
And really, Kara readily blurted out her secret to Winn. James already knew. Her sister and Hank/J'onn know. Probably the only reason she hid it from Cat was because she feared Cat would out her to the world. Assuming I'm right about Cat having an incentive to protect Kara's secret after Kara protected hers, then there's no reason why Kara should want to hide the truth anymore from Cat, who's quickly become her most valued mentor and guide.
Having Cat know Kara's identity on a permanent basis has the potential to explore untrodden ground in a mainstream superhero drama, that moreover could be pretty interesting. Their interplay so far has been one of the show's strengths. Cat's approaches to both Kara and Supergirl have been a blend of adversarial and mentoring, so there's quite a gamut involved. I really hope they don't take the easy way out and make Cat forget.
Oh no, are we going to have to dust off the old Smallville Concussion Count?
We know that Hank/J'onn is going to shape-shift into Supergirl, but the way Melissa Benoist talked about that moment indicates that said moment constitutes the how/when of Kara learning the truth about him, so I really don't see them using that moment just to convince Cat that she's wrong, especially since doing it for that purpose would have to be a decision made entirely without her (Kara) involvement.
We do?!
Well, very interesting recent episode.
I hope we get another season.
I wasn't too keen on Mellisa Benoist's selection or early performance as Supergirl, but I have to say as this season progressed - my opinion of her performance has changed.
I think she's settled nicely into the role.
I also think the scene where she burns herself out defeating the robot guy (sorry, can't place the name) was about as epic a SCI-FI scene that I've seen in about 10 years on TV. VERY powerful in appearance, concept and message.
I think Mechad Brooks as Jimmy Olsen is awesome! Great actor.
Chyler Leigh is the week link in my view. Bad? ... no, but I really don't enjoy her acting.
David Harwood's performance as Hank Henshaw is also noteworthy I think. When he revealed what happened to Alex's dad I was glued to the TV. Outstanding performance.
Calista Flockhart's performance as Cad has also grown on me. She's just hammy enough and real enough to make for an interesting character. I'm glad she put 2 & @ together and figured out who Supergirl was.
So all in all, I hear that the rating for Supergirl aren't that great, or have fallen off, or something.... I just hope we get another season.
I hope we get another season.
I wasn't too keen on Mellisa Benoist's selection or early performance as Supergirl, but I have to say as this season progressed - my opinion of her performance has changed.
I think she's settled nicely into the role.
I also think the scene where she burns herself out defeating the robot guy (sorry, can't place the name) was about as epic a SCI-FI scene that I've seen in about 10 years on TV. VERY powerful in appearance, concept and message.
I think Mechad Brooks as Jimmy Olsen is awesome! Great actor.
Chyler Leigh is the week link in my view. Bad? ... no, but I really don't enjoy her acting.
David Harwood's performance as Hank Henshaw is also noteworthy I think. When he revealed what happened to Alex's dad I was glued to the TV. Outstanding performance.
Calista Flockhart's performance as Cad has also grown on me. She's just hammy enough and real enough to make for an interesting character. I'm glad she put 2 & @ together and figured out who Supergirl was.
So all in all, I hear that the rating for Supergirl aren't that great, or have fallen off, or something.... I just hope we get another season.
I hope so. Trying to make a so deeply presented asshole character like Cat be the "mentor" of someone who needs THE most moral influences around her is typically modern, dysfunctional TV character at work. Cat whining about mommy and identity issues does not make her sympathetic or an understanding, needed source for guidance in Kara's life.
Alex and James certainly serve that need.
As mentioned days ago, this new Cat plot just comes off as more feeble soap opera confusion, considering Kara is--allegedly--going to be involved with her son (and we will not forget the inside job leading to the casting of this part). Supergirl has enough plots going in so many directions that it does not need more soap opera confusion to take it in yet another direction.
Yeah I really hope so. Although the odd thing is the synopsis for the next episode describes Kara "continuing to refute Cat's allegations that she is Supergirl", which makes me think the gang might try to engineer some crazy plan to fool Cat and get her to think otherwise or something.
But it's hard to imagine anything like that actually working, and I imagine by the end Kara will finally have to give in and acknowledge the truth.
You seem to be assuming that Cat is the mentor, when what we've seen so far has mostly been Kara teaching her things, or at least making her confront them. Cat is teaching her a bit about how to handle her public image - which is something Kara could use - but that only makes them sort of even: it hardly makes Cat her Obi-Wan.
I hope they keep her in-the-know - although given that MM gives them not just one but two ways not to, they probably won't. Which will be dumb, because once Cat figures it out *again* she probably won't be nice about it - and rightly so.
I don't mind if they are able to convince Cat that Kara isn't Supergirl once, but more than that and it gets really annoying. I would like to think superhero shows have learned from Smallville's mistakes, and know enough not to have people repeatedly figure out the hero's identity only to forget it or decide they were mistaken.
I'm really impressed with how fast the show is developing, especially compared with Smallville.
Personally, I do not see Cat as Kara's mentor; i'm referring to the view of some fans who keep placing Cat in that position--which I maintain would make no sense at all.
Cat is teaching her a bit about how to handle her public image - which is something Kara could use - but that only makes them sort of even: it hardly makes Cat her Obi-Wan.
Supergirl is not a celebrity, but a crime fighter. Cat's brand of PR does nothing to sell Supergirl to a skeptical or mistrusting government, people like Lord--who uses the Luthor argument of not needing aliens to save them, etc.
If MM helps Kara, there's no way for Cat to doubt it, as she's not some grand mind capable of recognizing alien deception (particularly alien deception on a Henshaw level that's successfully fooled innumerable agents, citizens, et al), and should not assume anything of that sort.