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[Roshi]

He joined here after he was kick pretty hard in the nuts over there at Trekweb because he was trolling... 4 years ago I think.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Is Scorned part of the Captain Robert April, MattJC crowd? I don't think I've seen him here until all these "homework" posts.

First time I've seen him, but I like him already.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Wow.
The troll has really hijacked my thread.

Rule No1 people. Don't feed it...

 

[The Doctor]

He joined here after he was kick pretty hard in the nuts over there at Trekweb because he was trolling... 4 years ago I think.

Yep, sounds about right. I think that he used to troll my Enterprise reviews back in the day.

 

[datas_cat_spot]

Kirk.

 

[John Picard]

There's a lot of TOS-era stuff left to explore.

Really? So we need to have ever little thing explained to us? Are we going to find out who Kirk took to his prom too because that is important?

Everyone already knows what will happen.

EXACTLY! No guts to try something new. A reset button movie. It is actually quite sad.

I agree with many of your assessments; HOWEVER, is it that damned difficult to use either the 'QUOTE' or 'MULTIQUOTE' buttons?

A compelling story would of been one that didn't have to involve Time Travel. Nero going back in time changes the time line. There was no time travel in any of the Star Wars prequels. Whether you liked them or not. They were the "story". It didn't have to be some "going back in time changing everything etc etc". Since they did that they can do another movie of just fixing the mess. Go back again and change it again. So what is the point really? Reset button episodes (and now movies) are just "safe" things to do. No guts to tell a real story and move things forward.

Move forward? The only way to move forward in the old Trek-verse is post-Voyager, and the 24th century is rather dull by comparison with the 23rd. There's a lot of TOS-era stuff left to explore, but if you don't throw in some degree of re-booting then there's no tension whatsoever. Everyone already knows what will happen.

I'd add that this isn't a reset-button episode. This is more or less a total franchise reboot. Like JuanBolio says, at this point they pretty much have to reboot to have actual tension to tell stories in the period they want to tell stories in, and it's also a convenient way to update things.

And thanks for the screencaps and gifs, everyone.

I fail to see how bringing Nimoy back as "Old Spock' reboots this franchise and takes it into a new direction. If it were a true reboot, Old Spock wouldn't be going back in time.

 

[indranee]

Wow, Pine really looks like teh Shat on that pic!

yep, except for the blue eyes

 

[ST-One]

There's a lot of TOS-era stuff left to explore.

Really? So we need to have ever little thing explained to us? Are we going to find out who Kirk took to his prom too because that is important?

Everyone already knows what will happen.

EXACTLY! No guts to try something new. A reset button movie. It is actually quite sad.

I agree with many of your assessments; HOWEVER, is it that damned difficult to use either the 'QUOTE' or 'MULTIQUOTE' buttons?

Move forward? The only way to move forward in the old Trek-verse is post-Voyager, and the 24th century is rather dull by comparison with the 23rd. There's a lot of TOS-era stuff left to explore, but if you don't throw in some degree of re-booting then there's no tension whatsoever. Everyone already knows what will happen.

I'd add that this isn't a reset-button episode. This is more or less a total franchise reboot. Like JuanBolio says, at this point they pretty much have to reboot to have actual tension to tell stories in the period they want to tell stories in, and it's also a convenient way to update things.

And thanks for the screencaps and gifs, everyone.

I fail to see how bringing Nimoy back as "Old Spock' reboots this franchise and takes it into a new direction. If it were a true reboot, Old Spock wouldn't be going back in time.

Because it's a reboot that fits into Teh Canon (TM)?

 

[Flake]

On the San Francisco picture, the large building in the foreground on the far left of the picture says: Tagruato. I believe this is a Cloverfield reference

 

[Captain Robert April]

 

[M'Sharak]

Good Lord, even Scorned is back?

I believe that that particular rathole has now been properly stopped up again.

Is Scorned part of the Captain Robert April, MattJC crowd? I don't think I've seen him here until all these "homework" posts.

First time I've seen him, but I like him already.

Sorry about that.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

There's been some improvement in technique since 1992:

No doubt at all that both are the Enterprise, though.

 

[Nowhere Man]

In response to everything:Has anyone thought that maybe the time travel is acedental?And I think the blob that the E is firring on is one of the smaller Romulan Fighters. Yes they could have just simply made a prequal movie without time travel and "Old Spock", but I'm not fully convinced it's a "Reboot" in the full sense of the world , otherwise, why is "Old Spock" in the movie?

 

[Ptrope]

Cliches are that for a reason - because more often than not they work and people consistantly are interested in them. That's why something as badly written as the Da Vinci Code sold so many copies.

Not really the description of clichés that is generally accepted - people are usually not interested in clichés, and they usually don't work, for the simple fact that they've been used so often that people are tired of them. That's why they are clichés. And while I agree that The daVinci Code was badly written and cliché-riden, the latter is not why it sold so many copies - that was generally a response to all the controversial media coverage, which left many people curious about why the book was controversial. The daVinci Code was a perfect example of selling the sizzle instead of the steak (because it was really more like cheap hamburger).

Time travel in Trek goes beyond cliché - it's become a crutch for telling "big" stories and then hitting the reset button, so that they have no consequence. Or simply so the writers don't have to 'think too hard' to come up with a story, to do any research whatsoever and possibly have to change what they wrote because it's inconsistent with the history of their characters and the characters' universe.

Consider the movies in the same light as the TV series - we know from week to week that the majority of the characters aren't in mortal danger, and yet we still continue to get compelling stories - not always, admittedly, but frequently enough. The threat of physical death or danger isn't the sole conflict of a "good" story - it's just as valid that the conflict is one of morals, the danger being to the character of the characters. How do they overcome the obstacles before them without becoming the thing they fear, or hate? There may be a finite number of plots in fiction, but that doesn't mean that a fresh story can't be told, even after hundreds of hours of the franchise, and it's not necessary to reboot, reset, or otherwise rewrite or ignore the existing material just to make those stories possible.

 

[ancient]

Looks wonderful and exciting. Almost every new thing I see/hear about this movie makes it look leaps and bounds better than before. (with a few design nitpicks being my only real exception)

It looks like it's going to be some of the best Trek ever, no doubt.

 

[The Doctor]

and it's not necessary to reboot, reset, or otherwise rewrite or ignore the existing material just to make those stories possible.

There's a difference between rewriting what's came before and not giving enough of a shit to care if what you're writing fits with the past.

Given the target audience and studio expectations for this movie, it simply wasn't worth the time or effort to get the little details right. And that's supposing for a moment that the little details were worth getting right.

TOS was never concerned overmuch with internal consistency, I don't see why this movie should be any different.

 

[The Doctor]

There's been some improvement in technique since 1992:

No doubt at all that both are the Enterprise, though.

It's amazing just how close the new model looks to the old. Sure puts the lie to the true-believers when they kvetch about how 'ugly' the new ship is.

 

[trevanian]

There's been some improvement in technique since 1992:

No doubt at all that both are the Enterprise, though.

It's amazing just how close the new model looks to the old. Sure puts the lie to the true-believers when they kvetch about how 'ugly' the new ship is.

Let's see, the new one is photographed here in a haze that would hide a multitude of sins, while in 91's TUC, it is shot in - surprise! -- an unforgiving stark environment of - gasp? - space. The tuc shot looks better too ... the new shot looks more like a flyby from the WING COMMANDER movie, though with less detail.

And that IS surprising, given the HD profile view that has been circulating. In that, you just have a bad redesign, yes, but it is tricked out with incredible detail and a genuine photographic quality that almost offsets the design. Yet in the frames from the film here, you see it in a haze (also in a haze when leaving that goofy spacedockstructure; maybe the Romulans vacuumed up all the air on earth and vented it into space to give it some aerial perspective?), making it impossible to evaluate with any accuracy.

 

[cooleddie74]

NICE.

I caught the ad, but wasn't recording it or anything. I'm not sure, though, whether I'm all that stoked that mid-23rd century San Francisco now looks a lot more like Coruscant than it used to.

 

[cooleddie74]

"Don't get your hopes up, Miss.

My rugged handsomeness sort of wears thin after I bust my nut and leave your solar system."